I'm hitting low-mid 50's on the y-axis flying DCS helos.
I'm hitting low-mid 50's on the y-axis flying DCS helos.
KEverything below 55-60°C is normal doing dogfighting. For helicopter flying you should use the trim more often. I never have the fans on while helicopter flying
SI'm getting the hang of it. It's a whole new way of flying! Very happy with stick feel when messing around with parameters outside DCS but those settings don't seem to transfer when playing DCS. Specifically, the damping seems much lower when holding Apache trim release vs how it feels outside the sim messing with settings.
FI'm not sure what exactly you're trying to calculate and how you do it? I've attached a simple FBD and calculation of the passive torque required to keep the stick level with the data you provided
Nyou should always do your adjustments to the joystick settings while in the aircraft. When not in DCS, the settings in configurator directly affect the feeling of the axis. I.e., %100 spring force will be the max the rhino can give you. But what it is really doing is setting the upper boundary for a parameter.
As a highly generic example, a sim like DCS will say "give me %50 spring force". That's not necessarily the same as what you would feel with the configurator slider set at %50. What it will result in is %50 of whatever the current slider value is at. So if DCS said %50, and your slider was at %80, the feeling would equate to your slider being at %40 when not in a sim that is commanding the joystick via FFB.
Hope that made sense
As a highly generic example, a sim like DCS will say "give me %50 spring force". That's not necessarily the same as what you would feel with the configurator slider set at %50. What it will result in is %50 of whatever the current slider value is at. So if DCS said %50, and your slider was at %80, the feeling would equate to your slider being at %40 when not in a sim that is commanding the joystick via FFB.
Hope that made sense
SMakes sense, thank you!
SI didn't see anything in the configurator for different aircraft profiles. Is that a thing?
Nnot via configurator. If you get it all set up for a specific aircraft, you can export the profile and then use TelemFFB to automatically load it when you switch to that aircraft.
SExcellent, I've got some tweaking to do
HI turn spring and inertia off and damper to 40%, that works really well in the Apaché.
HWith override turned off
SDon't you want to have springs active when you aren't holding trim release?
KThe spring force will come from DCS and anything spring related you set in VPForce software will be overwritten by DCS
SSo the VPForce software is just setting the max power available to DCS (settings tab) and relative axis tuning (effects tab)?
HYep
HBe sure the knob is set to control overall power (which it sounds like you did)
KI have Damper at 50% and Inertia at 30٪ IIRC but I will send you a Screenshot later
KThis are my Settings for Helicopters in DCS
KYou can check in the Debug Tab what effects come from the Configurator and what will be overwritten by the game
SAwesome, thanks!
LSo how does the WinWing adapter work? I have a couple WinWing grips I would love to use, but I'm kind of confused about how it works. I know the WW grips use a different 6pin din connector vs the 5pin, but I was under the impression the WW grips had some kind of processing inside the grip.
Does the full functionality still carry over to the rhino? Would SimAppPro recognize the grip?
Would this same adapter allow a WW grip to work on a Virpil/TM base also?
Does the full functionality still carry over to the rhino? Would SimAppPro recognize the grip?
Would this same adapter allow a WW grip to work on a Virpil/TM base also?
LThank you all for your time
VIs there someplace that states current wait time for getting one? Trying to decide if I should fill out the order form or if it is fruitless at this stage of the game. The only info I found is from July when it was a year wait
CThere is no cost to get on the wait list, so no reason not to. Also it seems like a lot of people are not able to purchase them when they come up. So it seems like most people are getting their orders sooner than expected, albeit it's still a decent wait.
C!stats
VHey @harland.sanders,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0342 on 2024-01-12
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 216 days, median is 228 days, max is 407 days
336 Rhinos are shipped in total
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0342 on 2024-01-12
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 216 days, median is 228 days, max is 407 days
336 Rhinos are shipped in total
Fjust direct message the vpforce bot with "!stats"
SHey guys, which DIY kit has the strongest motors? I have a machine shop, I figure I'll just build my own base
SOops ,found the info
SI ordered mid-May and got it this week. Worth the wait!
DI took some pictures today, figured I would share the important bits
D
RSomeone told me there was a FFB kit for MFGs?
JIdk if he's made then available yet but yes
JJust have to drill some holes in the mfgs and done
MThe rudder movement on this bird is more akin to a jet than other helos or am I mistaken?
D@stewmanji will know better
JThe adapter translates the full functionality of the WW grip to the Rhino. You will have all the extra buttons and axis. One exception is probably the stick shaker that is integrated in some WW grips. But with the Rhino you have a better option for these effects anyway. Don't know about the SimAppPro. I also don't know but doubt very much that the adapter would make the ww grip work on a virpil/TM base. I believe it is working withe the rhino only.
VGood to know. I use a VKG gunfighter 3 with the MCGU grip. Wondering if it will be too heavy. I also have the older plastic MCG but rather not go back to it.
S@VPforceBot !info
Fprobably best to private message the bot instead of sharing your e-mail address with the public 
SI was trying to
SYeah, I wanted to avoid that
Jplenty of people use the mcgu just fine
SIs there a waiting period for the DIY kits? My order was moved to "processing". Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask.
WNo, the kits are quick. Usually a few business days.
SOk, thank you
P!status
VHey @pece,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0342 on 2024-01-12
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 216 days, median is 228 days, max is 407 days
336 Rhinos are shipped in total
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0342 on 2024-01-12
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 216 days, median is 228 days, max is 407 days
336 Rhinos are shipped in total
RPics?
Dok whats the deal. do i need VPforce configurator still if Ive donwloaded the new joystick VPforce software?
