Kevin Powell - Community•5mo ago

I'm building a library. Is there a logger that can be configured by the user?

For those that know Java, I'm basically asking if slf4j exists in node. For those that don't know Java, I'm building a library that needs to output logs to: 1. Give me enough information to troubleshoot issues when apps use it. 2. Give users enough information to troubleshoot when they use it. I don't want to always print these logs. Logging should be configurable by the user. I don't want to write my own logging library to achieve this. Is there a node.js logging package that can be configured externally? PS: I've looked at node.js logger top 10 lists, and I didn't see any that touted this as a feature.

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Skylark•5mo ago

You can accept a function to call when logging, by default it could be console.log for instance, and you can also accept places to log for warnings, errors, and info You can accept these as options when initialising

const foo = new YourLibrary({
  logger: {
    log: logger.log,
    warning: logger.warning,
    error: logger.error,
    info: logger.info
})

const foo = new YourLibrary({
  logger: {
    log: logger.log,
    warning: logger.warning,
    error: logger.error,
    info: logger.info
})

This would also allow people to extend what happens when logging with custom logic such as

error:(…message) => {
    logger.error(…message);
    logger.backup();
},

error:(…message) => {
    logger.error(…message);
    logger.backup();
},

Or if for some reason they need to change the formatting Additionally you could add methods to attach specific loggers and it manages adding all of the different types of loggers, but then also expose being able to add the methods directly for those who want to add a logger you haven’t made a method for

Nihan•5mo ago

Hey, so at my work, I usually use pino. It has different levels of logs that you can use.. you should be able to use it on a browser build as well.. https://github.com/pinojs/pino/blob/master/docs/browser.md

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DanKaplanSES•5mo ago

I think this is one of the 10 I looked into. I'm not seeing where the option is to configure it externally Yeah, that would work. It's pretty much what I'm already doing in another app/library dependency. But it feels like writing boilerplate code and I don't like how I would have to write it over and over again unless I turn the logging into its own library; there are many other logging libraries out there already so I feel like all I'd be contributing is a feature

Nihan•5mo ago

Hmm, let's see if I understand you correctly, Basically you want your users to let your library know what kind of log they want to see right? Or maybe even disable it?

DanKaplanSES•5mo ago

Yeah, regardless of what logging package the library uses Maybe that's just a stretch goal

Nihan•5mo ago

It should be possible, https://betterstack.com/community/guides/logging/how-to-install-setup-and-use-pino-to-log-node-js-applications/#log-levels-in-pino Just pass in the level your users want to see. I am assuming you will have to take in that option during init. Or outright disable pino.

pino({
  enabled: !!process.env.NOLOG
})

pino({
  enabled: !!process.env.NOLOG
})

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Nihan•5mo ago

Can you check if that helps? Note that log level is a number, you can create your own levels without much issue. Btw, I am only talking about this because you don't want make your tiny loggin system. So can easily follow the advice given above.

DanKaplanSES•5mo ago

@Nihan That's effectively what I do now I think I'm approaching this at the wrong angle: is it rare for node libraries to log any information?

Nihan•5mo ago

No, it's. I can't live without logs haha... Even if I am shipping something that will not be used by another dev, I add logs or at least try to...

DanKaplanSES•5mo ago

we are both talking about libraries not apps, right?

Nihan•5mo ago

yes, we are talking about libraries.. I have used app as an example to explain that logs are fairly common imo.

DanKaplanSES•5mo ago

okay so it's common for libraries to log information: are they always off by default when they are used as a dependency? @Nihan (I forgot to reply)

Nihan•5mo ago

Ok, sry If I couldn't help...mostly because I am failing to understand the problem.. You can ignore btw... no worries *ignore me

DanKaplanSES•5mo ago

I'm probably describing it poorly, sorry

Nihan•5mo ago

nah it's fine, it was just a network lag I replied few seconds ago before your message anyway, yeah most smaller libraries don't include logging that much unless it wants to through an error or warn about something

DanKaplanSES•5mo ago

ah and big libraries are rare?

Nihan•5mo ago

hmm, I would say even big libraries don't always log details that much take react or pixijs for example. it will warn you but it won't log what is happening

DanKaplanSES•5mo ago

unless you ask it to or regardless?

Nihan•5mo ago

lemme double check something yep be default it won't log things in most cases that I have seen. unless it's to warn about something... @DanKaplanSES note that the story changes if you are using a backend framework it will give you logs by default. In the fronend however, browser console logs are frowned upon actually. Like in a pr you will be asked to remove it. Okay, cool I guess you have left the conversation.. I will jump off then 😦 Cya @DanKaplanSES

DanKaplanSES•5mo ago

Sorry I was in the middle of writing another post I'm back now Yeah that makes sense because users would see those logs and they may slow down the app probably other reasons too okay so when you change the default, is it usually a simple on/off, or can log levels be configured? That's a semi-rhetorical question: I'm going to assume the latter. With that assumption, does that mean every lib with configurable logging needs to be configured in its own way? And does that mean the user has to learn that way each time they want to configure logging in a new library?

Nihan•5mo ago

It depends really. I think you are free to allow any of those really....also when you say learning, usually logging will be kinda similar no matter package you use, it probably takes around 5 minutes to just skim the doc and see if there is anything new...

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