You need the adapter and you also need the black box (from VKB) as it uses that to communicate with

You need the adapter and you also need the black box (from VKB) as it uses that to communicate with PC, the adapter is just a physical cable passthrough.

The grip is awesome, you have plenty of buttons to bind and I love it. Can't see myself going back to other Virpil, WW or TM grips just because they all have less buttons than this

VakarianOP•1/27/24, 10:23 PM

Another thing to point out is that the adapter is only for "Gunfighter III" style of grip with the Rev.B adapter. They changed it to a TRRS style in Gunfighter IV config so the adapter won't work in this case unless you butcher it and make your own hard connnection

Fierce_Fire•1/27/24, 10:26 PM

Also the mcgu is pretty heavy(being metal) so if you use a long extension prepare to activate some compensation

TrigaNZ•1/27/24, 10:27 PM

I love my WW F-16 EX.

Fierce_Fire•1/27/24, 10:28 PM

Think imma get that as a side stick one day cause rhino doesn't like f16 as much

TrigaNZ•1/27/24, 10:30 PM

I don’t really fly the 16, but I like it for everything I do fly, 18, 64D, AV8B etc

VVakarian Another thing to point out is that the adapter is only for "Gunfighter III" styl...

amadeus•1/28/24, 12:09 AM

ahh so gunfighter 4 not supported quite yet?

VVakarian You need the adapter and you also need the black box (from VKB) as it uses that ...

amadeus•1/28/24, 12:10 AM

that would mean i would also need to order this? https://www.vkbcontrollers.com/products/blackbox-3

Aamadeus ahh so gunfighter 4 not supported quite yet?

amadeus•1/28/24, 12:15 AM

or is there physically no diff between Gunfighter 3 vs 4 relative to the rhino, so i should just get the 3 grip so the adapter will work?

Aamadeus or is there physically no diff between Gunfighter 3 vs 4 relative to the rhino, ...

amadeus•1/28/24, 12:16 AM

also, if you can potentially DM some pictures of how it all looks with the adapter? would be curious to see

VakarianOP•1/28/24, 12:26 AM

If you manage to fetch the grip made for GF III base, it will work with the current adapter. If you get grip for GF IV base, you will have to DIY the connection yourself as the adapter is made for GF III type connector.

On the other hand, yeah, that's the black box you require

VakarianOP•1/28/24, 12:26 AM

I mean, financially it really doesn't make sense to go to VKB grip unless you are already in possession of one as you require additional things to make it work

Jon (Bounty_V)•1/28/24, 12:27 AM

or want something specific like the mcgu because it is full metal

amadeus•1/28/24, 12:31 AM

The more buttons and metal appeals to me. Also dig the aesthetics

amadeus•1/28/24, 12:34 AM

But there is a simplicity to the virpil stiff, just kinda bugs me they come with a twist grip and that the lock has started to loosen a bit over the years. Kinda just want to have something that never twists heh

AndyHill•1/28/24, 12:39 AM

mcgu is my favorite grip so far, I wasn't too fond of the hats on mongoos and the mcgu fits my hand better

Aamadeus But there is a simplicity to the virpil stiff, just kinda bugs me they come with...

Red Magic•1/28/24, 1:31 AM

T-50 grip?

Red Magic•1/28/24, 1:31 AM

Been using mine for a bit

Red Magic•1/28/24, 1:31 AM

it's really good, excellent build. And big brake lever

Red Magic•1/28/24, 1:32 AM

Has so much buttonology that it ends up working well for replicating most any aircraft's grip layout

Red Magic•1/28/24, 1:32 AM

Except Spit (loop grip)

amadeus•1/28/24, 1:43 AM

Does the T-50 have a twist axis?

VVakarian You need the adapter and you also need the black box (from VKB) as it uses that ...

TeufelHunden•1/28/24, 1:51 AM

I have the gunfighter mcg but it has the original orange box i use for the grip and the t rudders will all this work with rhino?

Aamadeus Does the T-50 have a twist axis?

Red Magic•1/28/24, 2:04 AM

Duchess ✈•1/28/24, 2:22 AM

Printed off the 20 degree offset piece for the grip… the Rhino is now utterly sublime.

HPLsCat•1/28/24, 2:49 AM

Yes, it's absurdly good on anything that isn't FBW.

YunacPL•1/28/24, 6:03 AM

I've tried ACL in F14 yesterday on FFB and it's completely broken does anyone have similar issue or fix for that?

YYunacPL I've tried ACL in F14 yesterday on FFB and it's completely broken does anyone ha...

WingOver•1/28/24, 7:34 AM

🧰supportI look forward to your settings ☺

Monkee•1/28/24, 10:44 AM

We are discussing the idea of a custom version of the Tianhang F-16 stick (with a 5-way hat for the NGS and an axis -while keeping the button at the end- for the paddle lever), on yzhanping's discord (https://discord.com/channels/1189375918767087616/1189375918767087619/1201113899504779264) and he is asking if it would be problem for the Rhino that the brake axis may require a separate signal for interface definition. The original 5PIN will become (5+1 axis) 6PIN; this will have 31 buttons + 1 axis. Does anyone know? @walmis can confirm maybe? Thanks!

Activity•1/28/24, 10:50 AM

Virpil does buttons + axis with 5 pins so if he’d be able to mimic that, it’d be a drop in replacement

walmis•1/28/24, 10:56 AM

One can mimic a Virpil T-50CM3 using the following structure and a SPI slave microcontroller

struct VPC_T50CM3{
  uint32_t buttons; //bytes 0..3
  uint16_t brake_axis; //bytes 4..5
  uint8_t _res = 0; //reserved / unused
  uint8_t id = 0x07; //constant
} __attribute((packed));

struct VPC_T50CM3{
  uint32_t buttons; //bytes 0..3
  uint16_t brake_axis; //bytes 4..5
  uint8_t _res = 0; //reserved / unused
  uint8_t id = 0x07; //constant
} __attribute((packed));

TTeufelHunden I have the gunfighter mcg but it has the original orange box i use for the grip ...

LeLv30_Superbus•1/28/24, 2:05 PM

If it is a Gunfighter I - III grip it should work. Rhino doesn't need to know what VKB-grip you are using, you just need an adapter with correct diameter and threads to attach it physically. I'm using a Mk II and orange box (and T-rudder) myself.

Red Magic•1/28/24, 3:02 PM

Does the rhino use potentiometers or contactless sensors?

RRed Magic Does the rhino use potentiometers or contactless sensors?

walmis•1/28/24, 3:36 PM

Contactless of course

Wwalmis Contactless of course 🙂

Red Magic•1/28/24, 3:36 PM

Ok sweet. I was wondering because I see ppl throw the word "pots" around sometimes here, and made me a bit anxious for a minute

Red Magic•1/28/24, 3:37 PM

And uhhh while you're here.. HildaNani

MFG FFB news?

RRed Magic Ok sweet. I was wondering because I see ppl throw the word "pots" around someti...

Bob Bushman•1/28/24, 3:38 PM

I think most of the talk of the pot might be for the on the fly spring adjustment pot.

walmis•1/28/24, 3:38 PM

Yes there are pots for multi-function adjustments, but the motor feedback is ofc contactless.

Red Magic•1/28/24, 3:39 PM

Ah ok I see now

RRed Magic Ok sweet. I was wondering because I see ppl throw the word "pots" around someti...

walmis•1/28/24, 3:40 PM

MFGs are in progress, but there is a bit of shortage for the largest 86BLF04 motors until March. Will be able to ship ones with 86BLF03's sooner though.

Wwalmis MFGs are in progress, but there is a bit of shortage for the largest 86BLF04 mot...

Red Magic•1/28/24, 3:43 PM

Sounds good! Had been a minute and was wondering how things were going

Also something like this would be a good post for an #announcements channel

AndyHill•1/28/24, 4:01 PM

which motors do I want

Red Magic•1/28/24, 4:10 PM

For pedals, I'd think the big 04

Red Magic•1/28/24, 4:12 PM

Was curious and tried to look around online for the 86BLFs but to no avail. Found the 57 though
Edit: found the 86s too

AndyHill•1/28/24, 4:20 PM

bigger is obviously better, but then again patience isn't a thing that actually exists

Number481•1/28/24, 4:24 PM

You can always turn down power if you don’t need it. So in that regard, the 04 would be more versatile. But with my Virpils with 6:1 on an 03 motor I’ve never been in want of more force.

Bob Bushman•1/28/24, 8:39 PM

https://tenor.com/view/bigger-equals-better-neil-degrasse-tyson-star-talk-more-quality-gif-20197202

Tenor

Varibraun•1/29/24, 1:44 AM

!stats

VVaribraun !stats

VPforceBot•1/29/24, 1:44 AM

Hey @varibraun,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0368 on 2024-01-26
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 215 days, median is 227 days, max is 407 days
362 Rhinos are shipped in total

VPforceBot•1/29/24, 9:45 AM

:package:

RHINO #0369 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•1/29/24, 9:50 AM

:package:

RHINO #0370 Has Shipped!

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