Heroic Games Launcher•16mo ago

[Fresh install] Avatar Frontiers of Pandora

I'm on Bazzite-nVidia:latest and trying to do a fresh install of Avatar Frontiers of Pandora on my desktop: - Avatar Frontiers of Pandora owned via UbiSoft only. (i don't own the game in EpicGames.) - ROG STRIX X670E-E GAMING WiFi motherboard. - CPU: Ryzen9 7950X3D (has iGPU inside) - GPU: ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti AMP Extreme Core Edition - Storage: KC3000 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD (4TB) - RAM: DDR5 KF560C36BBEK2-64 (Total=64GB). - The game plays fine on this hardware with a Win11 OS installed which i rather drop in /dev/null --- I started to try to follow How to install Ubisoft Connect on Linux and Mac - Option 1 but am stuck on the 4th step _"Proceed to install the launcher" because the Finish button shows a 🚫 icon when my mouse is over it. I'm following the instructions literary step-by-step and thus have not touched the "Select Executable" field at all yet.

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foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

So i though i might as well select the installer in that input field to see what happens. (Is this what is meant to be done, but forgotten in that How-To 🤔 ) I went ahead and selected wine-ge-8-26-x86_64 instead of the 25 version, before selecting the installer in the "Select Executable" field. Followed by selecting the installer again when clicking the "RUN INSTALLER FIRST" button seemed to start the installer finally. Ok now i could finish step4 👍 Step 6 is missing info on where to locate the drive_c folder... Searching my homedir i found it to be under ~/Games/Heroic/Prefixes/default/Ubisoft Connect/ Now that the UbiConnect icon appeared in heroic i'm trying to follow what is shown in the images 👍

CommandMC•16mo ago

No, that's not what you're meant to do. As the guide says, click "Run installer first" and select the installer there Assuming you're on the latest version of Heroic, the folder picker is automatically started in this directory (so the drive_c folder is immediately visible)

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

The Wine versionis different though i think that is as expected... But the prefix 🤔 (Ahh well going ahead)

CommandMC•16mo ago

The only thing that matters for a WinePrefix directory is that it's an empty directory & you know where it is. Assuming that's the case here, everything's fine

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

I did that but nothing happend unless i did what i wrote in https://discord.com/channels/812703221789097985/1205105799790334032/1205107567588802570 😉 It shows v2.12.1 i guess that is correct? No idea why it didn't do that for me... _(Might be because i had Dolphin already open in background or something?)

CommandMC•16mo ago

Ah, managed to miss this Yup the Wine Version dropdown is a little weird sometimes. I've always meant to look into that, but then never got around to it

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

Anyhow i'm installing APOP right now, as i have successfully installed UBC and loged into my account. Will take some time though +-80GB (ETA: 2hr+ for my connection) It was the same without touching the wine version, it was just something extra i did, so i would run it with a newer wine version as the 25 default... The real problems will start after the game is installed though.... In Lutris i had to select my GFX card as icd before i got any window or graphics at all from the game. But even after that the game intro freezes at random points while the background music continues... Hope it will be different with Heroic... For my woes while using Lutris you might want to visit (And possibly help): https://discord.com/channels/1072614816579063828/1203629591391117372

extended-salmon•16mo ago

Heroic and Lutris use the same Wine-GE in the end

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

As long as i will be able to play this game on Linux i don't mind which launcher...

extended-salmon•16mo ago

I just mean to temper your expectations

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

@CommandMC ok seems it finished a while back... First run gave same results as in Lutris: Split second transparent window then back to blue play button again. (Eg. game force closes on start) Checking the settings of the UBC entry of Heroic: 1. "Wine -> Auto install/Update DXVK-NVAPI on Prefix" was unchecked. Enabling now. 2. "Other -> Prefer system libraris" was unchecked. Enabling now. 3. "Other -> Use Dedicated Graphics Card" was unchecked. Enabling now. Will try to run it again now...

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTNe3zvEIcM It seems to be possible, but how did they manage it 🤔

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Does it play on Linux? Avatar Frontiers of Pandora

Yes it does and thanks to the Heroic launcher. My OBS settings still need fine tuning, GPU screen recorder has unfortunately stopped working with Wayland on Linux. So, we make due. Enjoy the video.

extended-salmon•16mo ago

@TuxGaming-tp7ri 1 month ago Just using Herioc games launcher and Ge-proton8-25. My gaming rig is an i9-12900k paired with a 6800xt. Everything runs off a 2tb NVME drive and 64gb of DDR5 ram.

they're using an AMD GPU

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

Yes so lets try to make this work on mine ...

extended-salmon•16mo ago

you can't make something out of nothing. your 1080ti is known to have poor VKD3D compatibility

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

I have np playing other games that require a lot, just this APOP is giving me headages..

extended-salmon•16mo ago

what DX12 games have you played well?

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

I will even accept lowest settings... Darn now the launcher dont even show up anymore, just a shadow of a window that stays like that... Can't even launch UBC anymore...wth

extended-salmon•16mo ago

you could try this if you ever get it to launch again https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/t834b0/if_youre_using_an_older_nvidia_gpu_and/

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

Un checking "Use Dedicated Graphics Card" made UBC able to show it's window again pheew...

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

extended-salmon•16mo ago

this option is for laptops with multiple GPUs

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

@CommandMC Current logfile from Heroic:

rfeiRjSv34fdoWxUGqdR...

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

Can be, i don't know what options are for what in different game launchers... In Lutris we had to set the icd loader to my Card remember, that's why i checked this option in this launcher. But seems that messes stuff up here.

extended-salmon•16mo ago

you could try the env var in the reddit link above as well can't hurt

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

Lets first get the game to start at all, shall we? And please try not to derail the convo with other stuff, lets try to go step by step with what i am doing...thx

extended-salmon•16mo ago

excuse me, I cannot keep track of two separate attempts to install the game when you had it installed via Lutris I think it may be better if I just stop if you feel I am derailing you whatever frustrations you may have with the game, I want none of it

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

If you can't be constructive then please yes... Quote from a reply in that link you gave:

Well, older is a bit of a stretch. OP is running a last gen card (16 series was released along side 20 series, same architecture but without RTX stuff). But actual 10 series is now old.

Mine is a "GTX 1080 Ti" hardly a card that can be called "old"... Having it installed doesn't matter if it wont run right?

extended-salmon•16mo ago

it's 2 generations old now, and Nvidia does not care to provide proper driver support for it with respect to functions VKD3D relies upon. I've been helping you across two different servers and launchers. this seems out of left field here

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

Lets try to find if it indeed is that case, before jumpoing to conclusions, lets find evidence of it, and then try to find a way to get them or whoever to add that... And i appriciate any help, be sure about that... "Lets just drop it, if it doesn't work" has never been a solution to anything, nor did it make Linux better.... Imagine if people working on wine said that from the beginning... So if the nVidia driver lacks support for certain stuff that DXVK is missing, they might add it to it to compensate for the lack from nVidia... "There are more roads to Rome" beside the main road... 😉

extended-salmon•16mo ago

on a broad scale, you're right, but the roads have been examined. and doitsujin, the creator of DXVK, says it's not going to happen. here's an open issue for vkd3d + pascal performance https://github.com/HansKristian-Work/vkd3d-proton/issues/465 the logs from your other runs only indicate a lot of vkd3d calls before it ultimately gives up with no indication that there is another reason it fails here's another suggestion from doitsujin on reddit that may (but not likely) help https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/pkl86d/does_vkd3d_work_any_better_for_the_nvidia_10/hc6z9dc/

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

Sorry but linking me to posts about "Poor performance" does not help with problems NOT related to performance, my issue is that it won't run or at least it freezes. Which are two different kind of issues... If it was just poor performance i would be happy to game in slow-mo... But no, it all runs FINE 60-FPS, untill it freezes... (In Lutris) That is not poor performance at all But we have not come to that point yet using Heroic, and you derailing with stuff like that is NOT HELPFUL in this context.

extended-salmon•16mo ago

alright best of luck to you

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

Plus we are not using Proton, we are using Wine-GE, they might be similar or even related but they not same

extended-salmon•16mo ago

you shouldn't be using Proton in either Lutris or Heroic

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

Exactly so i am not...

extended-salmon•16mo ago

you do know that DXVK and VKD3D-Proton are used all the same right? GE-Proton, Wine-GE and Proton all use the same DXVK and VKD3D

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

No i don't know what is using what behind the scenes, im not that deep into the codes of those libraries...

extended-salmon•16mo ago

it is all relevant information disregarding the information because you find it unfavorable won't help you

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

That info can be related but it is not relevant for the STEP i m performing here... Please try to stay on topic, with the steps im doing... Someone else trying to follow this, will by long already LEFT this topic due to your derails...

extended-salmon•16mo ago

if you want to take an aggressive stance further, I will lock this thread I will leave you be. I will not be involved this matter anymore

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

If you find it aggressive to point out to you that you are derailing the topic at hand, which is the steps im doing, then YOU are to be removed...

extended-salmon•16mo ago

I just said to not take the aggressive stance, and you say I am to be removed? final warning I am leaving this thread and the one on the Bazzite server

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

FYI: I just reported you for that act...(Locking the thread)

extended-salmon•16mo ago

sure thing I'll take care of your report in due course

CommandMC•16mo ago

It looks like you have the Ubisoft Connect overlay enabled. Could you try disabling it?

absent-sapphire•16mo ago

they managed it cuz it's supposed to work ootb

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

Can you tell me how? (Don't really understand which kind of overlay you mean) Thanks, and i'm trying to make it work also here 😉

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

Do you mean this?

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

Nope game still does not start when i uncheck that, even if i uncheck the FPS also 🤷‍♀️ Is there a way in Heroic to configure the icd loader to use? Because in Lutris game at least started after selecting my nVidia card for that...

hilarious-sapphire•16mo ago

you generally do not need to set your icd loader these days. And your logs show that the nvidia vulkan drivers were loaded. Which is what the icd loader is for... but generally to set it is just an env var. but like others have pionted out, if its a shortcoming in the nvidia driver, this wont really change the result.

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

Lets first try to make the game start in Heroic, before jumping to conclusions without facts. termdisc is just too impatient todo real troubleshooting and jumps to conclusions without real evidence, and i blocked him on discord due to his agresive temper The game had same issue at startup in Lutris, until i changed the auto icd selection to manually select the nVidia card. That's why i want to try the same in Heroic, but in Lutris it was a menu option in the settings so i don't know the ENV variable name nor value to use in Heroic.

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

This is the logfile produced in current state i have heroic setup for the game using UbisoftConnect..

rfeiRjSv34fdoWxUGqdR...

hilarious-sapphire•16mo ago

the env var is the same, its not a heroic or lutris thing.. its just a regular linux environment variable.. but like i said, its used to select the appropriate vulkan driver, which is already loading in your logs. A simple google search: VK_DRIVER_FILES and the path to your file.. which is probably different per distro

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

Ok then why isn't the intro even playing in Heroic, until it gets stuck, like in Lutris then? At moment in Heroic, i get a split second transparent window popup-and out before it's properly displayed.. (The game main screen ofcourse, not the small one telling it is going to be launched)

hilarious-sapphire•16mo ago

huh? i mean its the same setting. You still have to set the env var in heroic.. but honestly if it wasnt working in lutris im not seeing how changing the launcher alters anything, at the end of the day both just call wine with dxvk/vkd3d installed heck in this case you are even using the same wine 😛

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

Well TBH, so far Lutris got the game running further as Heroic... I'm just trying to get it to run at least that far... But if you say there is zero difference between the two, then i might as well uninstall Heroic because Lutris is the obvious better choice then...

hilarious-sapphire•16mo ago

i mean clearly there are differences, but once the game is launched its in wine's realm heroic and lutris just connect you to the stores, install stuff, and help automate lots of the prefix setup which is not nothing 😛

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

So uhmm.. let me get this correct: Heroic does not do any different configs/dll overrides etc compared to what plain Lutris does by default?

hilarious-sapphire•16mo ago

its methods are more user friendly imo than lutris, but at the end of the day, they both just pass envars, game wrappers, setup the prefixes in much the same way.. since wine/proton are more or less what do the work once the game is launched

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

Lutris has a script/config that you use to install games with that has some presets for configs and stuff the game needs by default. If that part is identical in Heroic, then BYE heroic sorry

hilarious-sapphire•16mo ago

heroic doesnt have install scripts, but it does have an experimental feature that brings in the same things those install scripts have literally these are just tools to configure wine and manage libraries

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

Well okay so we at least got that far that the two game launchers setup games in different ways right?

hilarious-sapphire•16mo ago

to the user. sure

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

ok, so it might be possible to use the setup of Heroic to get this game to run further as what i got in Lutris...

hilarious-sapphire•16mo ago

what gives you that impression

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

Well at moment the game gets further using Lutris as what i got in Heroic...

hilarious-sapphire•16mo ago

define further

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

Without using env variables

hilarious-sapphire•16mo ago

if its not running its not running 😛

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

In Lutris the game starts PLUS intro video runs smoothly 60FPS, it just gets stuck after like 10-15 secs... In heroic the game wont even get to the intro stage

hilarious-sapphire•16mo ago

you're in a flat pak, did you enable system libs

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

✅ "Prefer system libraries"

hilarious-sapphire•16mo ago

is that a yes or a no haha

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

A checkmark = it is enabled, so yes 😉 So it's not like the game is not able to run in wine at all, no idea where you got that impression Because if that were rthe case, then yes it would not matter if i use Lutris or Heroic

hilarious-sapphire•16mo ago

so did you set the env var so the game runs fine in lutris? like you can play and all that? im confused whta the issue is then

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

No because i don't know which one to use with what value... In lutris it was just a menu selection to force icd loader

hilarious-sapphire•16mo ago

look up where the icd loaders are for your distro .. i dont use fedora that shuld be pretty simple its just the env var i gave and the path to the nvidia icd file

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

The game runs fine, UNTIL it freezes in the intro scene you get when you start the game, you know the forest tour with the AMD logo etc etc I have no idea which file that should be sorry, and no idea where to get the info on that 🤷‍♀️ I am technical yes, but im a total noob when it comes to Lutris/Heroic/Wine and not to mention icd loader stuff...

hilarious-sapphire•16mo ago

i mean.. google search probably works. ls /usr/share/vulkan/icd.d/ does that show anything? i'd pick the nvidia one in there

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

1 sec

hilarious-sapphire•16mo ago

btw that was first hit on google, r/fedora 😛

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

mainuser@uBlue:~$ ls -la /usr/share/vulkan/icd.d/
total 52
drwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 578 Jan  1  1970 .
drwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  90 Jan  1  1970 ..
-rw-r--r--. 4 root root 149 Jan  1  1970 broadcom_icd.i686.json
-rw-r--r--. 4 root root 151 Jan  1  1970 broadcom_icd.x86_64.json
-rw-r--r--. 4 root root 150 Jan  1  1970 freedreno_icd.i686.json
-rw-r--r--. 4 root root 152 Jan  1  1970 freedreno_icd.x86_64.json
-rw-r--r--. 4 root root 152 Jan  1  1970 intel_hasvk_icd.i686.json
-rw-r--r--. 4 root root 154 Jan  1  1970 intel_hasvk_icd.x86_64.json
-rw-r--r--. 4 root root 146 Jan  1  1970 intel_icd.i686.json
-rw-r--r--. 4 root root 148 Jan  1  1970 intel_icd.x86_64.json
-rw-r--r--. 4 root root 140 Jan  1  1970 nvidia_icd.json
-rw-r--r--. 4 root root 149 Jan  1  1970 panfrost_icd.i686.json
-rw-r--r--. 4 root root 151 Jan  1  1970 panfrost_icd.x86_64.json
-rw-r--r--. 4 root root 147 Jan  1  1970 radeon_icd.i686.json
-rw-r--r--. 4 root root 149 Jan  1  1970 radeon_icd.x86_64.json

mainuser@uBlue:~$ ls -la /usr/share/vulkan/icd.d/
total 52
drwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 578 Jan  1  1970 .
drwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  90 Jan  1  1970 ..
-rw-r--r--. 4 root root 149 Jan  1  1970 broadcom_icd.i686.json
-rw-r--r--. 4 root root 151 Jan  1  1970 broadcom_icd.x86_64.json
-rw-r--r--. 4 root root 150 Jan  1  1970 freedreno_icd.i686.json
-rw-r--r--. 4 root root 152 Jan  1  1970 freedreno_icd.x86_64.json
-rw-r--r--. 4 root root 152 Jan  1  1970 intel_hasvk_icd.i686.json
-rw-r--r--. 4 root root 154 Jan  1  1970 intel_hasvk_icd.x86_64.json
-rw-r--r--. 4 root root 146 Jan  1  1970 intel_icd.i686.json
-rw-r--r--. 4 root root 148 Jan  1  1970 intel_icd.x86_64.json
-rw-r--r--. 4 root root 140 Jan  1  1970 nvidia_icd.json
-rw-r--r--. 4 root root 149 Jan  1  1970 panfrost_icd.i686.json
-rw-r--r--. 4 root root 151 Jan  1  1970 panfrost_icd.x86_64.json
-rw-r--r--. 4 root root 147 Jan  1  1970 radeon_icd.i686.json
-rw-r--r--. 4 root root 149 Jan  1  1970 radeon_icd.x86_64.json

hilarious-sapphire•16mo ago

there's nothing really magical about the icd stuff, most of the time you dont have to set it, and the times you do, you just point it at the driver you want to use.

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

Well i didn't know because i never fiddled with this stuff yet brb, got to take out the trash real fast

hilarious-sapphire•16mo ago

just in case the env vars for a game are on the game settings page in advanced. You put the env var on the left, the value on the right

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

Ok i will now test with:

VK_DRIVER_FILES = /usr/share/vulkan/icd.d/nvidia_icd.json

VK_DRIVER_FILES = /usr/share/vulkan/icd.d/nvidia_icd.json

Correct?

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

Nope when i did that, UBC (Ubisoft Connect) didn't even launch...

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

message.txt

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

🙄

CommandMC•16mo ago

Flatpak Vulkan works differently here. Not quite sure how it works, but there are no ICD files in /usr/share/vulkan/icd.c (in fact the vulkan directory only contains a registry directory with what looks like Python scripts?) This error, from the log file above, seems to be the issue:

X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
  Major opcode of failed request:  149 ()
  Minor opcode of failed request:  4
  Serial number of failed request:  911
  Current serial number in output stream:  934

X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
  Major opcode of failed request:  149 ()
  Minor opcode of failed request:  4
  Serial number of failed request:  911
  Current serial number in output stream:  934

This usually points to some GPU driver issue. Make sure you're on the most recent Nvidia driver available (should be 550.40.07), and make sure the Flatpak runtime for this driver is installed

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

Will check tomorrow first thing 👍 @CommandMC I just checked and the driver in use is at moment: 545.29.06. I have no control over the driver in Bazzite-nVidia:latest though 🤷‍♀️

and make sure the Flatpak runtime for this driver is installed

Can you be specific in which package is needed for that? Maybe the Bazzite guys forgot to add that to the system. I know i can be a total noob, when it comes to stuff like this forgive my noobness..

generous-apricot•16mo ago

running flatpak update should be enough

foreign-sapphireOP•16mo ago

Well i guess i will just drop Heroic because it is obvious that Lutris gets games running further... With Lutris i at least got the game running the intro some seconds. Take care. 🖖

generous-apricot•16mo ago

:pogr_moment:

extended-salmon•16mo ago

Bazzite isn’t missing a thing 🤷🏻‍♂️

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