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InfOE•4mo ago
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Can pre-IPO companies take back the vested RSUs...

Can pre-IPO companies take back the vested RSUs if employee is caught being OE?
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so there's a chance the company can just bar you from buying if caught for OE, casue it's a 'breach of contract'
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Needle
Needle•4mo ago
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conventional-tan
conventional-tan•4mo ago
just like salary, no vested RSUs are part of your compensation which, you've already done the work for you've already delivered value to the employer it's not like you've done absolutely 0 hours and they can't prove that any emails you had that said "thank you!"? you've delivered monetary value anytime someone slacked you great work? you've delivered monetary value
like-gold
like-gold•4mo ago
What about ISOs (stock options)?
conventional-tan
conventional-tan•4mo ago
if you purchased ISOs or were vested ISOs, they're yours companies cannot take them away
like-gold
like-gold•4mo ago
What about unpurchased, but vested? because once you purchase them, they're no longer stock options, they're just stocks
conventional-tan
conventional-tan•4mo ago
you own them on vest, so it should fall under the same bucket
like-gold
like-gold•4mo ago
Ahh, got it
conventional-tan
conventional-tan•4mo ago
i've only been in companies where we paid pennies for those ISOs lol but they're the "same" as vesting well hold on when vested is there an option to "buy" those vested ISOs? if so -- there may be conditionals on those, like within employment or within 6 months of leave
like-gold
like-gold•4mo ago
Almost always, there's an option yes. But you probably don't want to exercise those options too early, or you'll have a huge tax liability, but no real payout because the stock isn't public/liquid
conventional-tan
conventional-tan•4mo ago
okay
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conventional-tan
conventional-tan•4mo ago
so there's a chance the company can just bar you from buying if caught for OE, casue it's a 'breach of contract'
like-gold
like-gold•4mo ago
At a previous role, I was told by the company General Counsel they almost never take back stock options (although they could, according to the employment contract). They'd only take them back in cases where i.e you stole form the company, or did other criminal things. I'm just not sure which category OE would fall in their eyes
conventional-tan
conventional-tan•4mo ago
it would be similar to "breach of contract" but yeah itll differ from company to company