and it's going to be a ballpark figure anyway, but I'm thinking those motors will need to dissipate

and it's going to be a ballpark figure anyway, but I'm thinking those motors will need to dissipate quite a bit of heat to keep going for any length of time

walmis•3/19/24, 2:32 PM

NOTICE Due to ISP problems, @VPforceBot will be offline for a bit

Stryker990•3/19/24, 2:40 PM

Nooo how will now know that im ~90 rhinos away from getting my own oh the humanity

BBoo Berry Does anyone know if the rhino works with War Thunder force feedback?

Fresh_Mint•3/19/24, 2:46 PM

It works but weirdly. In my case, spring force is too weak regardless of the gain value set by the vpforce configurator and timing of occuring buffeting is weird

AAndyHill and it's going to be a ballpark figure anyway, but I'm thinking those motors wil...

Fierce_Fire•3/19/24, 4:25 PM

I'd say look at max power rating, 15kg would be around there anyways

Spelljammer1•3/19/24, 5:23 PM

is the Rhino just as smooth at low force settings?

MashedPotato•3/19/24, 5:32 PM

The Rhino is smooth as hell at any force setting

Bob Bushman•3/19/24, 5:32 PM

Only time it doesn't feel smooth, and i mean smoooth, is when its not powered up.

MashedPotato•3/19/24, 5:32 PM

Yeah, if you move it around without power, it's a little crunchy lol

Bob Bushman•3/19/24, 5:33 PM

Power it up and it makes my otherwise amazing virpil gimbals feel like a bucket of bolts and nuts.

BBob Bushman Only time it doesn't feel smooth, and i mean *smoooth*, is when its not powered ...

Spelljammer1•3/19/24, 5:46 PM

this is why I ask about low force setting smoothness -- whether some of the graininess returns?

Bob Bushman•3/19/24, 5:46 PM

The anti cogging is seperate from the counter force, so even completely loose its all smooth.

Bob Bushman•3/19/24, 5:48 PM

You can almost feel more resistance without the motors powered than if you say dial spring down to 0%.

BBob Bushman The anti cogging is seperate from the counter force, so even completely loose it...

Spelljammer1•3/19/24, 5:50 PM

sounds delicious, can't wait to try. thanks

Bob Bushman•3/19/24, 5:51 PM

Getting the rhino was almost as big of a leap as going to VR

BBob Bushman Power it up and it makes my otherwise amazing virpil gimbals feel like a bucket ...

Spelljammer1•3/19/24, 5:51 PM

virpil gimbals are great, but somehow they have lost out to vkb and winwing in my setup.

Spelljammer1•3/19/24, 5:52 PM

well the WW Super Libra does have some Virpil DNA in the way I have modded it, namely Virpil's no center cams. With the WW Clutch, that one to date remains "the smoothest" I have

Bob Bushman•3/19/24, 5:52 PM

Never tried vkb, and got virpils early, good enough until I found something truly new. Do have a WW throttle.

BBob Bushman Getting the rhino was almost as big of a leap as going to VR

Red Magic•3/19/24, 5:53 PM

bigger for me. More than twice as expensive

BBob Bushman Never tried vkb, and got virpils early, good enough until I found something trul...

Spelljammer1•3/19/24, 5:53 PM

"got virpils early" means you don't have any gimbals with clutch, right?

Bob Bushman•3/19/24, 5:53 PM

yup

Bob Bushman•3/19/24, 5:53 PM

first run t50 and warbrd

Spelljammer1•3/19/24, 5:53 PM

okay thanks. that puts some perspective on the comment.

Bob Bushman•3/19/24, 5:54 PM

got them in like 2017

Spelljammer1•3/19/24, 5:54 PM

"smooth" for me means both a no center bump and a lack of felt axis crossing

Spelljammer1•3/19/24, 5:54 PM

warbrd does achieve that, but is very "springy"

Bob Bushman•3/19/24, 5:55 PM

So sure they are "old" but never felt like it would be worth to spend another $500 for a slightly updated unit

BBob Bushman So sure they are "old" but never felt like it would be worth to spend another $5...

Spelljammer1•3/19/24, 5:55 PM

nyogel + clutch does add to the "smoothness" feel considerably to the cam and springs gimbals in my experience.

Spelljammer1•3/19/24, 5:56 PM

@MashedPotato which bases are you comparing the Rhino to when you name it to be "smooth"?

SSpelljammer1 @MashedPotato which bases are you comparing the Rhino to when you name it to be ...

MashedPotato•3/19/24, 6:01 PM

I've used Virpil WarBRD and CM3 (currently still own both, use each for other stuff); have owned VKB GF Mk3s; have owned X-52 pro; have owned TM T16k. Have used: Virpil CM2, VKB Gladiator, X56, TMWH, TB VOne

MashedPotato•3/19/24, 6:02 PM

I've spent a LOT of money trying to find the right "fit" in sim gear lol. Rhino is the best I've ever used, both for its customizability, and the nature of FFB. Only recently got in to sim racing, and knew that I had to go straight to DD, because the Rhino has ruined me for imitations lol

MMashedPotato I've spent a LOT of money trying to find the right "fit" in sim gear lol. Rhino ...

Spelljammer1•3/19/24, 6:03 PM

haha I know that feeling once you upgrade of not being able to go back

SSpelljammer1 "smooth" for me means both a no center bump and a lack of felt axis crossing

Fierce_Fire•3/19/24, 6:04 PM

Rest assured, there's none of that with the rhino

SSpelljammer1 "smooth" for me means both a no center bump and a lack of felt axis crossing

MashedPotato•3/19/24, 6:06 PM

Yeah, the axes are completely independant in the rhino, you can add a center bump in software, but you definitely don't have one by default. You can also set it up to be linear (and customize the curve), or truly non-linear. IME, even "non-linear" gimbals that use springs still have a force curve

FFresh_Mint It works but weirdly. In my case, spring force is too weak regardless of the gai...

Boo Berry•3/19/24, 6:08 PM

That's too bad, I thought it was just me. Do you think it's a game problem or compatibility issue?

MMashedPotato Yeah, the axes are completely independant in the rhino, you can add a center bum...

Spelljammer1•3/19/24, 6:09 PM

thanks!
are the axes also independent for 'global' setting such as spring return or damping?

e.g. to have the stick return on one axis, but not have any spring feel on the other? (sounds weird but that's a backup use case I might have for the Rhino)

SSpelljammer1 thanks! are the axes also independent for 'global' setting such as spring retur...

MashedPotato•3/19/24, 6:18 PM

They are not only independant, you can split the inputs across the axis. I.e. the left/right and forward/back can all be individually configured

MashedPotato•3/19/24, 6:19 PM

The rhino software is pretty crazy. I think it'll launch without a rhino board being detected, it'll just throw a non-detected error. Download it and dig through the settings

SSpelljammer1 thanks! are the axes also independent for 'global' setting such as spring retur...

Fierce_Fire•3/19/24, 6:20 PM

behold the rhino's glorious customizability