"error: packages would be removed" when upgrading to Bazzite 3

Evening Newbs · 2024-04-26T19:03:26.007Z

I just did the upgrade to Bazzite 3 using topgrade and got this when it ran the rpm-ostree upgrade: ```error: packages would be removed: 281, enable replacement to override``` Other than that, the upgrade seemed to work alright and the system boots fine. Is that anything to be concerned about? I've only installed 2-3 things with few dependencies via rpm-ostree, so I don't think the packages could have diverged by that much.

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Kyle Gospo•4/26/24, 7:19 PM

rpm-ostree status | fpaste

rpm-ostree status | fpaste

rpm-ostree status | fpaste

rpm-ostree status | fpaste

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Evening NewbsOP•4/26/24, 7:42 PM

State: idle
Deployments:
● ostree-image-signed:docker://ghcr.io/ublue-os/bazzite-deck:latest
                   Digest: sha256:25e6c62e647e7bef2a461f24d0c7fea72a86fb95edb66bae00f350e42364bf55
                  Version: nightly (2024-04-26T17:04:40Z)
          LayeredPackages: adb dhcp-server hostapd radeontop
            LocalPackages: jdk-17-2000:17.0.10-11.x86_64 lact-0.5.4-0.x86_64

  ostree-image-signed:docker://ghcr.io/ublue-os/bazzite-deck:latest
                   Digest: sha256:b3e8d6e3cb7ed88de6dfe20dcf1f82a38eff42e02226d68897ea051a90ec7fa7
                  Version: 39.20240418.0 (2024-04-18T20:08:16Z)
          LayeredPackages: adb dhcp-server hostapd radeontop
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State: idle
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● ostree-image-signed:docker://ghcr.io/ublue-os/bazzite-deck:latest
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                  Version: nightly (2024-04-26T17:04:40Z)
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  ostree-image-signed:docker://ghcr.io/ublue-os/bazzite-deck:latest
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                  Version: 39.20240418.0 (2024-04-18T20:08:16Z)
          LayeredPackages: adb dhcp-server hostapd radeontop
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State: idle
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                  Version: nightly (2024-04-26T17:04:40Z)
          LayeredPackages: adb dhcp-server hostapd radeontop
            LocalPackages: jdk-17-2000:17.0.10-11.x86_64 lact-0.5.4-0.x86_64

  ostree-image-signed:docker://ghcr.io/ublue-os/bazzite-deck:latest
                   Digest: sha256:b3e8d6e3cb7ed88de6dfe20dcf1f82a38eff42e02226d68897ea051a90ec7fa7
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State: idle
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● ostree-image-signed:docker://ghcr.io/ublue-os/bazzite-deck:latest
                   Digest: sha256:25e6c62e647e7bef2a461f24d0c7fea72a86fb95edb66bae00f350e42364bf55
                  Version: nightly (2024-04-26T17:04:40Z)
          LayeredPackages: adb dhcp-server hostapd radeontop
            LocalPackages: jdk-17-2000:17.0.10-11.x86_64 lact-0.5.4-0.x86_64

  ostree-image-signed:docker://ghcr.io/ublue-os/bazzite-deck:latest
                   Digest: sha256:b3e8d6e3cb7ed88de6dfe20dcf1f82a38eff42e02226d68897ea051a90ec7fa7
                  Version: 39.20240418.0 (2024-04-18T20:08:16Z)
          LayeredPackages: adb dhcp-server hostapd radeontop
            LocalPackages: jdk-17-2000:17.0.10-11.x86_64 lact-0.5.2-0.x86_64

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Kyle Gospo•4/26/24, 7:43 PM

I would

rpm-ostree reset

rpm-ostree reset

to remove the packages you've layered

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Kyle Gospo•4/26/24, 7:43 PM

then try updating

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Kyle Gospo•4/26/24, 7:43 PM

JDK you can run in distrobox

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Kyle Gospo•4/26/24, 7:43 PM

radeontop is unnecessary, we ship nvtop

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Kyle Gospo•4/26/24, 7:43 PM

adb can be used in distrobox

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Evening NewbsOP•4/26/24, 7:44 PM

Are these preventing other packages from updating then?

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Evening NewbsOP•4/26/24, 7:45 PM

I'd prefer not to screw around with it if I don't need to.

EEvening Newbs Are these preventing other packages from updating then?

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Kyle Gospo•4/26/24, 7:45 PM

probably, yes

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Evening NewbsOP•4/26/24, 7:46 PM

Any way to tell which ones?

EEvening Newbs Any way to tell which ones?

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Kyle Gospo•4/26/24, 7:46 PM

one at a time until it works?

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Kyle Gospo•4/26/24, 7:46 PM

layering packages is a last-resort activity

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Kyle Gospo•4/26/24, 7:47 PM

you have at least 3 packages that should never need to be layered

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Kyle Gospo•4/26/24, 7:47 PM

let's start w/ fixing this

KKyle Gospo one at a time until it works?

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Evening NewbsOP•4/26/24, 7:56 PM

I meant how to tell which packages are failing to upgrade.

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Evening NewbsOP•4/26/24, 7:56 PM

rpm-ostree upgrade

rpm-ostree upgrade

rpm-ostree upgrade

rpm-ostree upgrade says no updates available.

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Evening NewbsOP•4/26/24, 7:57 PM

But I don't know if that's because it can't or because nothing is kept back,

EEvening Newbs I meant how to tell which packages are failing to upgrade.

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Kyle Gospo•4/26/24, 7:57 PM

Just

rpm-ostree reset

rpm-ostree reset

to get rid of your overlays, then update.

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Kyle Gospo•4/26/24, 7:57 PM

You can reinstall later if you really want to, but you shouldn't

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Kyle Gospo•4/26/24, 7:57 PM

use distrobox

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Evening NewbsOP•4/26/24, 7:57 PM

I would like to understand how it works internally, that's all.

EEvening Newbs I would like to understand how it works internally, that's all.

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Kyle Gospo•4/26/24, 7:57 PM

The specific packages having issues is meaningless because the entire image is being updated. Your current layers are causing a conflict. Knowing which one saves you seconds, but you'll spend hours figuring out which

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Kyle Gospo•4/26/24, 7:58 PM

and all to save something that shouldn't be done that way in the first place

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Kyle Gospo•4/26/24, 7:58 PM

it's not worth it

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tryhardsoccermomswag•4/26/24, 7:58 PM

the end goal is to not include

rpm-ostree

rpm-ostree

in the future and have it all

boot-c

boot-c

boot-c

boot-c

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tryhardsoccermomswag•4/26/24, 7:58 PM

do not worry this won't be for a long time

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tryhardsoccermomswag•4/26/24, 7:59 PM

we'll also have #

sysext implemented properly by then

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tryhardsoccermomswag•4/26/24, 7:59 PM

but try to use distrobox over layering packages

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Evening NewbsOP•4/26/24, 7:59 PM

I've only had bad experiences with distrobox in the past.

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Evening NewbsOP•4/26/24, 8:00 PM

And being told "just do x" is not the way I like to troubleshoot.

EEvening Newbs I've only had bad experiences with distrobox in the past.

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Kyle Gospo•4/26/24, 8:00 PM

you may want to give Nobara a try then, not a lot of point in using an immutable distro and then disagreeing with the intended use case

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Evening NewbsOP•4/26/24, 8:00 PM

I learn nothing.

EEvening Newbs I learn nothing.

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Kyle Gospo•4/26/24, 8:00 PM

nothing to learn here except using distrobox

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tryhardsoccermomswag•4/26/24, 8:01 PM

boxbuddy makes it easier

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tryhardsoccermomswag•4/26/24, 8:01 PM

it's a nice GUI

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tryhardsoccermomswag•4/26/24, 8:01 PM

if you want to learn, look into

distrobox-assemble

distrobox-assemble

distrobox-assemble

distrobox-assemble

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Evening NewbsOP•4/26/24, 8:01 PM

It wasn't the UI that I had trouble with.

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tryhardsoccermomswag•4/26/24, 8:01 PM

can make your own custom boxes

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Evening NewbsOP•4/26/24, 8:02 PM

Thank you, that's more helpful than "just do what I said."

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Evening NewbsOP•4/26/24, 8:05 PM

Alright, I ran

rpm-ostree reset

rpm-ostree reset

and there are still no updates available.

EEvening Newbs Alright, I ran `rpm-ostree reset` and there are still no updates available.

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Kyle Gospo•4/26/24, 8:05 PM

rpm-ostree status | fpaste

rpm-ostree status | fpaste

rpm-ostree status | fpaste

rpm-ostree status | fpaste

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Evening NewbsOP•4/26/24, 8:06 PM

Do I need to reboot or is live-update enough?

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Kyle Gospo•4/26/24, 8:06 PM

reboot, live update is very unsupported

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Kyle Gospo•4/26/24, 8:06 PM

and no way it could work with a whole version distro upgrade

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Kyle Gospo•4/26/24, 8:07 PM

good for things like "This package has a systemd service and I want to enable it before restarting"

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Kyle Gospo•4/26/24, 8:07 PM

and not much more

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Evening NewbsOP•4/26/24, 8:08 PM

State: idle
Deployments:
● ostree-image-signed:docker://ghcr.io/ublue-os/bazzite-deck:latest
                   Digest: sha256:25e6c62e647e7bef2a461f24d0c7fea72a86fb95edb66bae00f350e42364bf55
                  Version: nightly (2024-04-26T17:04:40Z)

  ostree-image-signed:docker://ghcr.io/ublue-os/bazzite-deck:latest
                   Digest: sha256:25e6c62e647e7bef2a461f24d0c7fea72a86fb95edb66bae00f350e42364bf55
                  Version: nightly (2024-04-26T17:04:40Z)
          LayeredPackages: adb dhcp-server hostapd radeontop
            LocalPackages: jdk-17-2000:17.0.10-11.x86_64 lact-0.5.4-0.x86_64

State: idle
Deployments:
● ostree-image-signed:docker://ghcr.io/ublue-os/bazzite-deck:latest
                   Digest: sha256:25e6c62e647e7bef2a461f24d0c7fea72a86fb95edb66bae00f350e42364bf55
                  Version: nightly (2024-04-26T17:04:40Z)

  ostree-image-signed:docker://ghcr.io/ublue-os/bazzite-deck:latest
                   Digest: sha256:25e6c62e647e7bef2a461f24d0c7fea72a86fb95edb66bae00f350e42364bf55
                  Version: nightly (2024-04-26T17:04:40Z)
          LayeredPackages: adb dhcp-server hostapd radeontop
            LocalPackages: jdk-17-2000:17.0.10-11.x86_64 lact-0.5.4-0.x86_64

State: idle
Deployments:
● ostree-image-signed:docker://ghcr.io/ublue-os/bazzite-deck:latest
                   Digest: sha256:25e6c62e647e7bef2a461f24d0c7fea72a86fb95edb66bae00f350e42364bf55
                  Version: nightly (2024-04-26T17:04:40Z)

  ostree-image-signed:docker://ghcr.io/ublue-os/bazzite-deck:latest
                   Digest: sha256:25e6c62e647e7bef2a461f24d0c7fea72a86fb95edb66bae00f350e42364bf55
                  Version: nightly (2024-04-26T17:04:40Z)
          LayeredPackages: adb dhcp-server hostapd radeontop
            LocalPackages: jdk-17-2000:17.0.10-11.x86_64 lact-0.5.4-0.x86_64

State: idle
Deployments:
● ostree-image-signed:docker://ghcr.io/ublue-os/bazzite-deck:latest
                   Digest: sha256:25e6c62e647e7bef2a461f24d0c7fea72a86fb95edb66bae00f350e42364bf55
                  Version: nightly (2024-04-26T17:04:40Z)

  ostree-image-signed:docker://ghcr.io/ublue-os/bazzite-deck:latest
                   Digest: sha256:25e6c62e647e7bef2a461f24d0c7fea72a86fb95edb66bae00f350e42364bf55
                  Version: nightly (2024-04-26T17:04:40Z)
          LayeredPackages: adb dhcp-server hostapd radeontop
            LocalPackages: jdk-17-2000:17.0.10-11.x86_64 lact-0.5.4-0.x86_64

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Evening NewbsOP•4/26/24, 8:09 PM

Why does it still say they're in the image?

"error: packages would be removed" when upgrading to Bazzite 3

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