https://virpil-controls.eu/vpc-mongoost-50cm2-grip.html The Mongoose cm2 grip is an all round «does

https://virpil-controls.eu/vpc-mongoost-50cm2-grip.html

The Mongoose cm2 grip is an all round «does it all” grip for both helis and planes that natively fits the Rhino.

VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Grip

★ Cyrillic Button Labels
★ Based on Modern Russian Fighter Jet Controls
★ Material - Enhanced PU Plastic Construction
★ Wide Variety of Buttons, Triggers and Hats
★ Analogue Brake Lever

Due to the height of the grip, it is best suited for desk mounted/cockpit setups.

HrEpleOP•5/12/24, 12:50 PM

Virpils extensions also work natively.

Piola•5/12/24, 1:01 PM

I know but I don’t like that plastic

Fierce_Fire•5/12/24, 1:06 PM

Why?

HHrEple https://virpil-controls.eu/vpc-mongoost-50cm2-grip.html The Mongoose cm2 grip i...

Fr4Ged•5/12/24, 1:17 PM

Has been out of stock permanently for months now though

HrEpleOP•5/12/24, 1:17 PM

I can relate, but metal adds weight that eats force feedback and adds heat to the motors. All in all, I don’t really think about it while using it, and I came from a metal thrustmaster warthog grip

HrEpleOP•5/12/24, 1:17 PM

I assume they’re updating the model then. Been out for a while - always always to improve the grips

HrEpleOP•5/12/24, 1:18 PM

VK / Winwing also makes great stuff, I think.

Fierce_Fire•5/12/24, 1:23 PM

As a mcgu user, the only thing id change is move the body back to plastic tbh

Fierce_Fire•5/12/24, 1:23 PM

Reason i went with it was the other benefits it gave, but coming from the gladiator the mcgu feels cold in the hand

Piola•5/12/24, 2:54 PM

I wrote it wrong sorry, I don't like that TYPE of plastic

Bob Bushman•5/12/24, 4:19 PM

You're supposed to hold it, not eat it.

Piola•5/12/24, 4:51 PM

Piola•5/12/24, 4:55 PM

the alpha prime gave me a different feeling, it seemed more solid, with the cm2 I had a better feeling with the grip but the plastic felt like one of those €2 Chinese toys. I'll point out, it's a personal opinion.

FFierce_Fire Reason i went with it was the other benefits it gave, but coming from the gladia...

Toddimus•5/12/24, 5:45 PM

Interesting. I actually like the cold metal of the MCGU. But I agree that it would lead to more work for the motors. Part of the reason I went DIY with the 8604 motors.

Bob Bushman•5/12/24, 5:55 PM

I'm not so sure about the weight argument.
From googling the tm f16 grip is 350 grams, the listed weight for the cm2 is 340grams, I'll chuck mine on a scale when i get home but yeah, I wouldn't worry about weight difference.

For me the virpil costs $50 less and has significantly more buttons to bind giving increased flexibility.

Fierce_Fire•5/12/24, 6:09 PM

Well the mcgu has a direct plastic counterpart

Bob Bushman•5/12/24, 6:24 PM

Put my cm2 on the scale now, and it clocks in at 356g.

AndyHill•5/12/24, 6:31 PM

350 sounds very low for tm f16 grip

AndyHill•5/12/24, 6:33 PM

if I had to guess I'd say it's something like 3 times the weight of the cm2

AndyHill•5/12/24, 6:34 PM

of the top of my head, winwing f-16 grip and mcgu are soemthing like 600g, Cougar / Warthog are about 1kg

Bob Bushman•5/12/24, 6:38 PM

Yeah, not going to put too much stock in my googling there.
Excusably I did it on my phone while waiting for my fried chicken.

j9murphy•5/12/24, 6:40 PM

I think TM f16 grip is about 1kg

AndyHill•5/12/24, 6:40 PM

I could just weigh a cougar, but to do that I'd have to find my scale, find batteries for it and then touch a cougar

Bob Bushman•5/12/24, 6:41 PM

Cougars tend to be real touchy about their weight as well.

j9murphy•5/12/24, 6:41 PM

Depends who's weighing them

AndyHill•5/12/24, 6:42 PM

basically TM just decided to make them as heavy as possible with minimal structural strength

AndyHill•5/12/24, 6:43 PM

winwing and mcgu are aluminum and they are just about over half the weight of the couthog at about 600g

Bob Bushman•5/12/24, 6:44 PM

Never owned the warthog stick, but did have the throttle.

Not especially impressed as all the weight and heft to it came from the two steel bottom plates and lead weights bolted to them.
Everything else was cheap fragile plastic and glue, lots and lots of glue.

Bob Bushman•5/12/24, 6:45 PM

Its not a bad throttle by any means, but it doesn't compare well when measured up against virpil or even winwing.

AndyHill•5/12/24, 6:46 PM

mine has lasted for over a decade so can't complain too much

AndyHill•5/12/24, 6:46 PM

could be better

AndyHill•5/12/24, 6:46 PM

been checking out what others have to offer and I think they're probably better, but not enough to justify the switch

AndyHill•5/12/24, 6:47 PM

the new hyper taurus might be if it has motors

Bob Bushman•5/12/24, 6:49 PM

I've got an orion 2 and the very first gen virpil throttle, so can't really say i need replacement there.

Bob Bushman•5/12/24, 6:50 PM

But I would be intrigued to diy one, if I could just get a spot ready where i could some diy.

AAndyHill the new hyper taurus might be if it has motors

MashedPotato•5/12/24, 6:51 PM

Even the super taurus is miles ahead of the TMWH throttle, just good luck getting one these days lol. I'm excited to see what the hyper taurus can do/looks like, but WW software has always sucked ass, so any FFB functionality might be... not great

Bob Bushman•5/12/24, 6:51 PM

Or have "issues".

BBob Bushman But I would be intrigued to diy one, if I could just get a spot ready where i co...

Fierce_Fire•5/12/24, 6:52 PM

Im intrigued in a throttle based vpforce

Fierce_Fire•5/12/24, 6:53 PM

With the detent system we have now i wonder if itd work okay

Bob Bushman•5/12/24, 6:53 PM

My throttle works, but last i checked never showed up in the software as its on a hub.

So to do anything with it configuration wise I would have to move it over to the actually computer.

Thats on the other side of a wall and its fully bolted down on my 150lbs pit.

Bob Bushman•5/12/24, 6:54 PM

Duchess ✈•5/12/24, 7:22 PM

I have a TM F-16 (UK Edition, not even sure what that means) coming to replace the TM F-18 grip I have now. I just figured the F-16 grip is more versatile and should work better for A-10 and F-4E even though I like the F-18 one for the F-15E module.

MMashedPotato Even the super taurus is miles ahead of the TMWH throttle, just good luck gettin...

Lehmen•5/12/24, 9:51 PM

Super Taurus, in my opinion, mechanically is the best throttle out there.

LLehmen Super Taurus, in my opinion, mechanically is the best throttle out there.

Chuff•5/12/24, 11:50 PM

I love my Super Taurus

Chuff•5/12/24, 11:52 PM

the startup panel is kind of useless because they were so specific with it, so even if you're using it for the hornet there are really only maybe half a dozen switches that will get any real use, and there are no extra buttons on it at all, so most of the switches on the panel are just unused for me. The throttle itself is excellent, though.