If you've already got a decent grip, the price can definitely seem steep for what it offers over wha
If you've already got a decent grip, the price can definitely seem steep for what it offers over what you already have (in my case VKB MCG Pro)
JThere's no question the grip is solid quality, but is it $310-370 more quality than what I already have? not really
SI think my hangup is that it's juuuuusssst a little high for what it is, and the market it's releasing into
Ait's not competing with the mcg pro tho, it's competing with the gunfighter 4 ultimate which is a lot more money, no?
Jhot take: its primary demographic, aside from newcomers or people looking for an upgrade, is to throw virpil fans a bone "here's something even better you can buy now"
JThat's a base, not a grip, right?
Swould a nice replica Flanker grip be a neat thing to have? totally, 100%
and the brake lever and slew are nice to have compared to some cheaper options
and the brake lever and slew are nice to have compared to some cheaper options
Sbut you can get those on a $200 metal stick from WinWing too
Sand there's no Flanker sim (currently)
JVKB North America
Gunfighter IV ‘Modern Combat Edition’ Ultimate - Tabletop Dive into the heart of modern aerial combat with the Gunfighter IV ‘Modern Combat Edition’ Ultimate. This joystick is engineered for precision and responsiveness, offering a deeply immersive experience with advanced controls designed for the complexities of mode
Awhatever the grip that comes with that
JIncludes
- 1 MCG ‘Modern Combat Grip’ – Ultimate
- 1 Gunfighter IV Base
JYeah thats the MCG U grip
Awhich is closer in price
SI don't think it's wildly off at the ~$300 mark, but that's still $370 ish shipped, and then apparently the price is going up by $60 later
JWhich is the MCG Pro but metal
Aright -- my point is -- this is catering to a more luxury/premium category
JI wasn't reading what your point was or which category you were talking about. I was sharing my opinion with what I have, which is the MCG Pro
Awhether it will sells or not at the price and if people think it's worth it for what they want, time will tell, i guess ultimately what i am saying, i don't think the price is outrageous for the market it's going after
JSo for me personally, that's what I was giving my opinion of
JAnd for me, it isn't enough better
JEven the MCG U isn't enough better than my Pro (I've used an Ultimate before, the GF IV you are talking about it competing with)
Ayeah -- i'm mostly commenting on that people saying things like virpil is more low end, or that it's outrageous in price, neither of which i agree with, but i'll give it that it's pricier
JVirpil low end??? lmfao
JWhere on earth did this hot take originate
Ssome of their switches have been pretty bad in the past but that's still a hot take lol
Sthey seem to be much improved, and apparently the hats on the FLNKR are much better
Ai think the point that mostly cracks me up -- is that we're all in a discord paying $800 for a force feedback base, (and for many of us, that's a small percentage of what we've invested in our
pits)JI've got a better Virpil hot take
Cyclic grips when
Cyclic grips when
JSpecifically models to accompany the existing collective grips
Atheir apache collective looks p nice, would love to get it, not sure how i'd work it into my setup atm, that's my biggest struggle, heh
JWhat would really cater to the luxury/premium demographic is things being more 1:1 in the cockpit and not yet another generic Russian grip
JI one day want to incorporate a collective into my rig
JBut I'm already minmaxing space to work my racing and flying into one thing
Sthe odd thing with this one is that I think it is 1:1 with the Su-35 grip, but it's like I said before... there is no Su-35 simulator to go use it with
Ayeah, i believe while it's not 100% replica, i think it's pretty close to a specific russian fighter
Sthe MCG and CM2 (or whatever Virpil's old stick is called) are very much mashup generic Russian grips
Jmy cockpit upgrade priority will probably make new rudder pedals my next purchase
Slike a Su-30/57 hybrid
JI currently have CH Products Pro pedals
Soh yeah you need pedals dude lmao
Syou have a Rhino and you're still rocking the CH set?
Show do you get your legs around it lol
Jits underneath my seat, only thing between my legs is grip extension
SI have a set, they were great for me at the time, but I got the MFG pedals and never looked back
SI will say though, the pedals market has always been a bit rough, there's almost nothing in the low-mid range
Jalso since my setup is hybrid and im trying to make it all work in the laziest way possible, I'm limited on dimensions for pedals
JFor example, were I to get MFG Crosswinds, I have at most 2-3mm space on either side for them to fit
Jthat's accounting for movement
Sit's definitely a recent thing, but fortunately WW and VKB and Virpil all have pedals now, and I think MFG is the widest set
Snot 100% on that, but I've always heard it about them