PauseAI•16mo ago

Action Page - Pauseai.info Website

To discuss the design of what is arguably the most important page on our website after the front page.
https://pauseai.info/action

PauseAI

Take action

Ways to help out with pausing AGI development.

sacred-roseOP•9/11/24, 2:14 PM

Also I'm thinking about copypasting this page on the server, so the actions will also have a place listed on the Discord

sacred-roseOP•9/11/24, 2:15 PM

I think the "Learn more" section shouldn't be there

sacred-roseOP•9/11/24, 2:15 PM

And I think the Follow section should be retractable

sacred-roseOP•9/11/24, 2:15 PM

Or at least link to the Linktr.ee

sacred-roseOP•9/11/24, 2:17 PM

Also I don't like the division in the first sections, would be interested on here ideas on how to divide better those actions

sacred-roseOP•9/11/24, 2:18 PM

In general we should be looking for opportunities for reducing the length of the page

sacred-roseOP•9/11/24, 2:19 PM

And ranking from most cost-effective to least

yucky-gold•9/11/24, 3:05 PM

Tracking volunteer activities / hours

yucky-gold•9/11/24, 3:07 PM

Or an updated version on Telegram: https://t.me/c/2193538607/16

Listed by the approximate difficulty of tasks, easiest to most time/resource-consuming.

Yyucky-gold Or an updated version on Telegram: https://t.me/c/2193538607/16 Listed by the a...

sacred-roseOP•9/11/24, 6:04 PM

oh yeah, I like your list a lot. Now i'm feeling lost about what does it have that the page doesn't (outside the titles) and if we should then change the page somehow.

Maybe we also need to put one or two clear main actions, and put all the others as extra.

sacred-roseOP•9/11/24, 6:04 PM

Like creating/ joining local communities. We are wondering how we can retain more volunteers and maybe more social, in real life stuff is the key.

sacred-roseOP•9/11/24, 6:06 PM

(I personally think that working on the gamification could be as important (or more) as helping local chapters)

Ssacred-rose oh yeah, I like your list a lot. Now i'm feeling lost about what does it have th...

yucky-gold•9/11/24, 6:13 PM

I based it on our Action page. Just rearranging it and slightly gamifying it.

yucky-gold•9/11/24, 6:14 PM

I believe we have a few core problems that limit our growth, "using mostly Discord" is the main one.

Yyucky-gold I believe we have a few core problems that limit our growth, "using mostly Disco...

sacred-roseOP•9/11/24, 6:39 PM

How would you fix it?

Ssacred-rose How would you fix it?

yucky-gold•9/11/24, 6:41 PM

My first question would be to our 2000k members with a survey. Which other groups/forums they are actively participating in, if any, and what "platform" is used by those. Eg. forum format EA, reddit-y (?) format LW, etc.

yucky-gold•9/11/24, 6:41 PM

What do they find they like about usability therein.

yucky-gold•9/11/24, 6:45 PM

There was an interesting experiment in psychology, if I can sum it up roughly. A gadget company made a public gathering of a focus group to ask them which colours of their gadget would they potentially most prefer to buy. The group gave a bunch of rainbowy answers. The trick was, on the way out they let everyone choose that gadget to take as a gift, any colour. Most of them chose black.

Morale: judge on what people do more than on what they say.
Dunno how relevant this is but felt like sharing

sacred-roseOP•9/11/24, 7:26 PM

yeah... I mean I think people use mainly Whatsapp groups but big groups need to be separated in smaller ones. That's why local/ national chapters could be the way.

colossal-harlequin•9/11/24, 11:55 PM

You'll find out about our current (niche) membership preferences, and that will be useful, but we should only use that in a context that recognizes we want to attract a far wider membership who may have quite different preferences.

sacred-roseOP•10/3/24, 3:51 AM

https://github.com/PauseAI/pauseai-website/pull/217

GitHub

Shortening and polishing the /action page by Pato-desu · Pull Reque...

Ssacred-rose https://github.com/PauseAI/pauseai-website/pull/217

popular-magenta•12/4/24, 8:59 PM

Actually, I can take this over since I'm making new handout cards after I gave out all my old ones. I'll redo the page and link directly to it.

popular-magenta•12/4/24, 9:00 PM

Also, I think the color of orange we use on the homepage is slightly darker than the color we use everywhere else: # FF9416 (old) vs # E07800 (new homepage)

sacred-roseOP•12/4/24, 9:01 PM

the orange here?

popular-magenta•12/4/24, 9:02 PM

I think that one might be the same (slightly darker) color, but I'm talking about the colors for the text lower down.

popular-magenta•12/4/24, 9:02 PM

Basically, I can't tell if that orange is wrong because there's a picture behind it that changes the color.

sacred-roseOP•12/4/24, 9:11 PM

I think I prefer the darker tone, but I don't think is important anyways

popular-magenta•12/4/24, 9:13 PM

That image is fine, but I think this is noticeably lower contrast:

popular-magenta•12/4/24, 9:13 PM

And no, it's not a priority, but thought I'd make a note of it

awake-maroon•12/9/24, 11:47 AM

The latest PR seems like a pretty big change that should have been discussed longer imo, especially since the page is linked from a bunch of places. Didn’t have a chance to look through it yet so no concrete opinions for now

sacred-roseOP•12/9/24, 9:39 PM

yeah, just looking at the first line it says "Create an email for a politician in the US". Why just the US??

sacred-roseOP•12/9/24, 9:55 PM

I'm gonna make comments here https://github.com/PauseAI/pauseai-website/pull/245/commits/d6cda708e7be3ddada827eca39fb0870619de065

Ssacred-rose yeah, just looking at the first line it says "Create an email for a politician i...

popular-magenta•12/9/24, 10:48 PM

I'm actively working on it so we can link to the page from a flyer to draw engagement. I saw your comments and I'll go through them tomorrow when I have a few hours.

popular-magenta•12/9/24, 10:50 PM

A lot of them come down to having a page that works better for one demographic tends to make it more awkward for another. I think an option to select if you're in the US or EU or somewhere else would be best, but I don't have those skills.

sacred-roseOP•12/9/24, 10:53 PM

cool, thanks!

popular-magenta•12/10/24, 2:43 PM

Sent a pull request with most of the changes. The ones I didn't do were things that were just moved around on the page,

popular-magenta•12/14/24, 4:07 AM

Sorry I haven't gotten to fixing the website - was protesting, then got stuck on a layover overnight

sacred-roseOP•12/14/24, 5:42 AM

I already did

sacred-roseOP•12/14/24, 5:42 AM

don't worry

sacred-roseOP•12/14/24, 5:44 AM

Also brought back / deleted some stuff in the process but we can discuss them

dangerous-fuchsia•12/14/24, 8:37 AM

FYI we built this since no one else had: existentialsafety.org. Will debug, iterate, and launch soon. Feedback welcome!

Will keep it updated and suggest others link to it (unless they want to create their own customized action lists)

sacred-roseOP•12/14/24, 3:03 PM

I like it, I would like us to share it and I wonder where does it fit on the website. Even in the /action page

popular-magenta•12/14/24, 4:15 PM

Yeah, probably

dangerous-fuchsia•12/17/24, 4:49 AM

Could be "See more possible actions on www.existentialsafety.org" or the like, after any organization's custom lists

(It'll be regularly updated to always be the best source for answering this question: How can I (or my organization) best tackle existential risks?)

Ddangerous-fuchsia Could be "See more possible actions on www.existentialsafety.org" or the like, a...

sacred-roseOP•12/17/24, 5:28 AM

Okay, I think now I know why I wasn't sure where to add it. We discussed making the action page actually simpler and more concise and this would be the opposite.
I also think it's better to keep the page specific about how to increase the chances of a moratorium. Not other AI Safety interventions.

But we could add it to https://pauseai.info/learn#other-websites. And, tbh, I think your website should be linked in AISafety.com instead of ours in the section about taking immediate action.

sacred-roseOP•12/17/24, 5:29 AM

It would make more sense

dangerous-fuchsia•12/17/24, 11:41 AM

Yeah, I recommended that change months ago, made the initial list, and then nothing happened. That's how I ended up creating this

dangerous-fuchsia•12/17/24, 11:42 AM

Pause's might be super specific, sure. For those who want to go deeper, they can dive into our 70+

colossal-harlequin•12/20/24, 12:32 AM

@James Norris quick note in passing that https://existentialsafety.org/ clips text off sides of screen on my pretty standard Chrome-on-Android. I tried viewing source but the approach looks very framer specific.

Ccolossal-harlequin @James Norris quick note in passing that <https://existentialsafety.org/> clips ...

dangerous-fuchsia•12/21/24, 9:26 AM

Could you try to recreate and send a screenshot? It's not showing up in any of our tests

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