B@Deleted User I've been considering a response to your proposal https://github.com/ublue-os/main/issues/689, and maybe I should ask my questions there, but it seems like you already asked people to vote... I don't want to vote yet... so... here we are
BFirst, I'm curious what prompted the proposal. I see your thoughts there, but it feels a bit sudden from my perspective. Granted, I'm not massively active on discord, certainly not in No Access or 🎮bazzite etc...
Was there a specific even which resulted in your belief this is required? Or was there a discord disucussion which I missed?
Was there a specific even which resulted in your belief this is required? Or was there a discord disucussion which I missed?
AIt would be good from a product perspective to have a discord for bazzite users
I don't think splitting up ublue into bluefin etc is warranted
I don't think splitting up ublue into bluefin etc is warranted
AI'd personally graft the channels as they are now into a ublue discord and replace ~/local/share/bazzite with a single bazzite channel
AI don't think aurora or bluefin or the dev channels get enough traffic to warrant splitting on their own
AWhich I also think is one of the main things causing issues
AWhen bluefin does not have enough messages, they head to general and general is a free for all
AAlso, if as j0rge says you view bluefin as a hobby and can't guarantee an sla for your users, your users will always be developers that can fix it if it breaks
ASo developers, ublue dev etc
Bwait... you view Bazzite as a product with an SLA?
Bif that's the view, I'm not surprised it would lead to a desire and/or need to split everything, but I've never believed that to be the situation, nor the goal around here.
AI mean I'd like people to be able to depend on it
AIf it works every other day what's the point
ABazzite tends to break more though as there are more moving parts
ABut in any case, bluefin and aurora are more closely affiliated with ublue than say the average bazzite user
BYes. I agree. We definitely want things to be dependable, but an SLA is not something provided by volunteers.
AIf you split them up, around 3/5 of the users are on deck images and from the leftover 2/5 like 2/3 are normie gamers
ASo what's that, 4/15? Less
AWell the 11/15 should be shoveled somewhere else
AIt's not expected from anyone. But the image that ships needs to work
AExcept Kyle and me I guess. I'm happy to provide that level of quality
AAnd Kyle seems to as well but at the end of the day it's up to him, bazzite is his creation
NYeah, I think there needs to be a longer discussion on what the goals are here.
NI also don't view Bazzite as something that can have an SLA due to it being a 100% volunteer project.
AAlso random desktops are gonna break
AAnyway
AAnd if amd doesn't care well you know
ALet's not mention nvidia
NI think rearchitecting the discord before doing a split would probably be a better option for now.
NI think that's a good idea.
ABut what would it solve
ANobody forces you to look in general
AI dont
AYou would just shovel the garbage in general to the main bazzite chat
AJust keep them there its a good blowoff valve for spammy stuff.
If you think it shouldn't be there then that circles us back to splitting
If you think it shouldn't be there then that circles us back to splitting
AI think the main issue with that is that you want a ublue general where bluefin, aurora, and ublue users can chat with each other
AThen you get 100 bazzite users that couldn't figure out the roles
ABut those have to go somewhere
Jbecause it gives off the impression that we do support here.
ARemoving general?
Jno, having the people there to begin with
AThat's true I don't disagree there
ABut discord is easier than hunting them on reddit and GitHub, you know, for support
ASo we agree there
JI don't understand what you want to do.
Jdump #general into #bazzite?
ANo
AI want general to stay there but if it's removed
AIt's not like the users will stop existing
