AMD CPU heats up when locking PC or changing TTY
- Locked with Windows + L
- Game is Path of Exile 1
- changing TTY to view with bpytop does not affect the fans, they're still running fast, and the CPU is hot
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@tulip
here, imma install btop and try again
what exactly is your system state when you lock your screen?
does it suspend?
and if you can can you send ur
rpm-ostree status -v output here?It's just lock screened 😂 I can even change tty and screw around over there just fine, but the system is still hot
this sucks 😭
journalctl -b -e -n 2000 | fpaste?
whenever the system is blazing hotcpu - 360 KELVIN
😭
😂
yeah, it spikes to 96
idk why the hell ectool measures in kelvin lmao that's wild
it makes sense tho its the most accurate you can get
fair I suppose
at least with integers huh
most weather stations most likely use kelvin for their mesures then change them to farenheit and celsius
for when you need to know when your cooling setup is so efficient that it's approaching absolute zero
this 👆
hey @tulip I saw that shit 💀
fire emoji for you too
anyways yeah its weird
lemme grab the journalctl for ya
so you said the cpu temp jumps up, does btop actually show cpu percentage jumping up too?
alright
not that I could tell no
maybe lower the line cout a bit btw since fpaste doesnt like too much data
bpytop shows like 3% of the cpu being used
maybe tuned is doing something funky?
I'll just out it to a file and come grab it for here manually
okok
if so @Kyle Gospo might need to weigh in
for reference on that front, I'm on my laptop, and I don't have any monitors plugged in. I'm playing with power plugged into the back left slot (FW 16 with dgpu)
cpu temp jumping without an actual increase in cpu usage is what's tripping me up
only thing i can think of is the fans just not working
thats why i thought it was fw-fanctrl at first
I thought the fans went crazy
ok, so when locked, Path of Exile is using 100% of Core 3 it looks like intermittently
yeah the fans are going nuts
100% clocked up
does this happen with other games?
haven't checked yet. I'll try with another xwayland game, then with a wayland native one
oh my god
journalctl 👆
what the hell
yeah it definitely could be the game losing its mind about losing focus/the screen being locked
i guess thats why
well there you go
what's up then?
xwayland?
do
MESA_LOADER_DRIVER_OVERRIDE=zink on specifically the path of exile gamelike when launching it?
yup
on the launch options
just to see what happens
ye
it will run slightly worse
one mo
I mean tbh, this isn't exactly a breaking issue 😂 since I very infrequently lock my screen while gaming, but I'm trying the thing now
you'd need a
%command% at the end of that line tooit is definitely concerning tho
like that should never ever happen
Fans still spin up
ive had opengl errors like that with some funky stuff but not... like that....
journalctl again?
if so we can add that variable on
/etc/environment and see if kwin likes it betterno GL errors anymore
nice
still heating tho
only thin kinda weird is all the wpa_supplicant logs but it seems... fine
Cores 2 and 3
yeah I'm on a crappy hospital wifi rn, don't worry about that 😂
it doesnt happen on any other circumstances?
nope, just gaming
lemme try other games now
oh, I also have a non-steam game I can try through lutris
yea try that out
i might also try PoE without the steam overlay since I know that things jank as hell sometimes
spinning up witcher 3 as another test
ok Witcher 3 actually got cooler when locking
I assume because it's getting paused or smth
probably
which is what I would've assumed PoE would do 😂
maybe its just PoE?
could be the proton version too actually, Witcher was using 9.04, but poe is on experimental, one sec
might not be that tho
proton should use dxvk
those were gl errors on ur logs
yeah different proton didn't change anything
you can use protontkg w/ wayland to see if it is xwayland being weird
I mean poe is supposedly running Vulkan, so idk why gl errors would be there
most likely wont do anything tho
yea
I can also try running poe in dx11
or maybe 12
you probably should test out some other games just to see if its just PoE
witcher 3 doesn't do it
OK so switching to DX11 makes it stop
it's PoE's vulkan
makes Mangohud stop reading my GPU properly lmao but that's a whole different thing lmao
its vkd3d apparently
if it was on DX12 its vkd3d being mad at you
so DX12 also doesn't do it as badly. It mostly just stays a little consistently hotter
DX11 is fairly cool, DX12 is warmer, and Vullkan is cool while playing and hot while locked
trying a wayland native game rn, that also runs on vulkan
yeah that doesn't do it either
just PoE
gonna check to see if this is something known somehow on protondb
Not that I can find. I'll try steam overlay and GE proton next
Lutris game first tho
AC Valhalla does not do it either
steam overlay off + GE Proton does not change anything
did confirm, btop shows the same CPU usage both before and after locking the screen
only the temperature increases
oh ok @tulip this is no longer just a game issue. While installing a game on Steam, it also does this. Locking the screen pushes the temps up
Have you removed the fan control packages?
I tested this on my 16 last night and could not reproduce this with the same game
Let alone just by locking
I haven't but I can try. I don't know why that would effect it if all this does is modify the fan speeds
so with fw-fanctrl paused (not uninstalled), the temperatures still increase when locked
let me disable the service
@Kyle Gospo disabling the fan control package did not affect it
switching tty also does it now, not just locking
temps fairly stable at 87 rn on tty2 (KDE), but immediately jump to 95 when on TTY 5
then they come right back down to 87 when I switch back
btw
oh, I don't want x11, lemme remove that lmao
specifically, it's acpitz-acpi-0 temp4 that's spiking
which is the CPU temperature
GPU temp isn't doing anything different
journalctl while on TTY5
I think this can also be reproduced by playing runescape 3 through https://github.com/USA-RedDragon/jagex-launcher-linux-flatpak/. Since the latest bazzite update (Stable (F41.20241216)) whenever I launched the game it would make the CPU go crazy and peg all cores at 100% causing temperatures as high as 90C. The
MESA_LOADER_DRIVER_OVERRIDE=zink option seems to work to stop this behavior and keeps the CPU at 9% usage. Wouldn't read too much into this since the game seems to barely work on linux to begin with, but thought I'd mention the data point since it seems to map pretty closely to this issue. No packages layered or fan software configuredGitHub
GitHub - USA-RedDragon/jagex-launcher-linux-flatpak: Play RuneScape...
Play RuneScape with the Jagex Launcher - in Flatpak form! - USA-RedDragon/jagex-launcher-linux-flatpak
Fascinating, I'm on 1209. I'll try upgrading today probably to see if anythings different too just in case
Yea, could be unrelated, but similar journalctl messages and CPU also going crazy seems like a interesting coincidence. Oddly I never saw the issue with 1209
Just tried turning off steam overlay but that didn't do anything
Also apparently PoE2 also does this
to further narrow it down the runescape example is outside of steam and is just using normal wine, so I think that probably helps rule out steam specific tech. On the bright side though for my example forcing zink both fixes the issue and it runs noticeably better. I'm on nvidia (5700x3d + 3080), has anyone ran into this on AMD/Intel?
Did you put the env var in the game parameters or in /etc/environment?
I used flatseal to give it the variable
yo @tulip @Kyle Gospo what the hell, it's Mangohud
just as a test, I didn't put
mangohud %command% in the game parametrs, and now it's not doing itwhat the sigma
LOL no way
If I had to guess, either something in my mangohud setup is whack, or the Poe adaptive frame rate setting might be fighting with mangohuds
Something like that
Honestly I'll probly keep this thread open until I stumble across what's actually causing this
Well actually especially since it happened when downloading a game too
Mangohud wasn't even on then
tested on latest bazzite and no change
has nothing to do with locking the screen tho, just changing the tty does it too
latest FW16 firmware update too
it really is just mangohud for some reason lmao
It does make me wonder if mangohud is causing any other issues I don't even know about lmao
it might be some openGL bugs with mangohud
sorry for not answering this earlier ive been working on centos-workstation like all day for these past days
(theres a little teaser on #📷showcase )
you can like try to use
gamescope --mangoapp??? i dont ... know.....?Game scope mangoapp is actually hella bugged rn 😅
No worries!
Idk what I'm looking for 😅
pinged you there LOL
I meant to respond to this 😂 that looks cool as hell