Thank you, that solved it! Sadly if the official VKB Stock for the blackbox is sold out i don't know

Thank you, that solved it!
Sadly if the official VKB Stock for the blackbox is sold out i don't know where to get one either.

FFlatSpin https://flightsimcontrols.com/product/vkb-main-controller-blackbox-stand-alone/

elijahautistic•1/22/25, 10:27 PM

I guess i’ll just wait for it to be in stock again

DDukeofHyrule Thank you, that solved it! Sadly if the official VKB Stock for the blackbox is s...

elijahautistic•1/22/25, 10:28 PM

Glad to hear that ! At first i thought my gear was broken ahahah

Crossfire•1/22/25, 11:25 PM

Or you can go DIY route like https://github.com/FatLurch/VKB_Grip_Test

GitHub

GitHub - FatLurch/VKB_Grip_Test: Basic Arduino interface to VKB MCG...

Basic Arduino interface to VKB MCG Pro grip. Contribute to FatLurch/VKB_Grip_Test development by creating an account on GitHub.

CCrossfire Or you can go DIY route like https://github.com/FatLurch/VKB_Grip_Test

elijahautistic•1/23/25, 12:40 PM

Oh, that’s a good thing to have, didn’t knew you could do that. Thanks !

moldy•1/23/25, 8:27 PM

When I start up my PC, the Rhino powers on and goes to the full forward position. If I turn off the Rhino and turn it on again, it properly centers itself. I've tried running the auto calibration in the VPForce Configurator, but continue to have this issue. Here's what my axes setup currently shows:

Mmoldy When I start up my PC, the Rhino powers on and goes to the full forward position...

smitty•1/23/25, 8:37 PM

your Y calibration is over 4096, so when you power on if the stick is in a position where it (when previously powered on) is in the 4097 to 4220 range, it immediately thinks its in 0 to 123 range, and tries to get to the center at 2554. Best solution is to loosen the motor and move the belt over some number of teeth so that it calibrates between 0-4096

moldy•1/23/25, 8:38 PM

Great, thank you for the advice!

moldy•1/23/25, 8:52 PM

That fixed it, thank you

Jarmak•1/24/25, 4:22 AM

Connecting a single motor just to test and mark center point for a rudder setup but it keeps telling me the motor is offline

Jarmak•1/24/25, 4:22 AM

motor is acting like it's connected, turns smoothly

Jarmak•1/24/25, 4:23 AM

20V showing on the VBUS

Jarmak•1/24/25, 4:40 AM

motor led is green, intermittently doing a rapid flash

Jarmak•1/24/25, 5:27 AM

motor definitely getting power, getting 20V in the pins behind the connector

Jarmak•1/24/25, 5:52 AM

Think the issue might be the ID in the firmware? searching through old threads it's mentioned it should blink once for X and twice for Y, mine blinks many times

JJarmak Connecting a single motor just to test and mark center point for a rudder setup ...

f14billy•1/24/25, 6:08 AM

When connecting a single motor you have to disable the axis that you won't be using in the configurator or it won't read any motor data.

Ff14billy When connecting a single motor you have to disable the axis that you won't be us...

Jarmak•1/24/25, 6:16 AM

did that

f14billy•1/24/25, 6:17 AM

Have you tried disabling the other one? Maybe the axis in the motor was mislabeled. It's happened before.

Jarmak•1/24/25, 6:19 AM

Yes I tried both

Jarmak•1/24/25, 6:19 AM

f14billy•1/24/25, 6:20 AM

A picture of the board connection would help just to rule out any cable connection issues.

f14billy•1/24/25, 6:21 AM

Maybe the power is connected to motor 1 but the data cable is connected to motor 2 in the board or viceversa.

Jarmak•1/24/25, 6:21 AM

This doesn't seem like the led behavior walmis has described should be happening

Jarmak•1/24/25, 6:22 AM

Board looks good, the motor itself is acting like it's connected

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f14billy•1/24/25, 6:24 AM

Just in case I'd try switching the connections to motor 2 and see if you still get the same issue. Then hopefully someone here can help you.

Jarmak•1/24/25, 6:27 AM

Tried swapping the data as well

f14billy•1/24/25, 6:28 AM

Power and data to motor 2 and if you still get the same issue regardless of the connection then hopefully someone here can help you troubleshoot.

Jarmak•1/24/25, 6:31 AM

20V is 20V, power isn't the issue. I think it's probably a motor firmware issue and needs @walmis

f14billy•1/24/25, 6:33 AM

I meant to try and connect the motor power and data cables to motor 2 just in case for some reason motor 1 wasn't working well in the board

walmis•1/24/25, 6:35 AM

@Jarmak DM'd the instructions. The motor ID wasn't set for some reason.

Wwalmis @Jarmak DM'd the instructions. The motor ID wasn't set for some reason.

Jarmak•1/24/25, 6:38 AM

Thanks! Will follow and try again in the morning

pju38•1/24/25, 4:28 PM

DYI FFB Rhino kit. Windows 11 Family 24H2 26100.2894.

Rhino X/Y axes are working in Windows game controller.
Rhino auto calibration has been done without throw limiter (installed after calibration),
as documented in assembly Ref manual

Rhino X and Y axis cannot be selected in Condor3 simulator.

After Windows game controller calibration (X/Y now able to reach
Windows game controller corners), Rhino X and Y axis can be selected in Condor3.

Manual 2.2.3 throw limiter adapters : "Recalibrate the controller for the new throw ranges."

Does it mean Rhino auto calibration followed by Windows game controller calibration or
just Windows game controller calibration ?

Thanks

pju38•1/24/25, 4:28 PM

pju38•1/24/25, 4:30 PM

TheAmazinGreat•1/24/25, 4:36 PM

Per Walmis from another thread: “VP configurator currently deletes any calibration of the axes it finds in the registry, to avoid undefined behaviour with FFB…”

So the windows calibration shouldn’t matter. The reason it isn’t reaching the corners is because you are calibrating in VP software before you install the limiter. I know the manual says to calibrate prior to limiter install but try doing the calibration in the VP software with the limiter installed and then try condor again.

TheAmazinGreat•1/24/25, 4:38 PM

With limiter installed and calibration done in VP software the windows controller should see the full corners. But the windows controller shouldn’t need any calibration.

TheAmazinGreat•1/24/25, 4:41 PM

@pju38 ^

Wwalmis @Jarmak DM'd the instructions. The motor ID wasn't set for some reason.

Jarmak•1/24/25, 6:37 PM

This solved the issue, thanks!

Padinn•1/24/25, 10:02 PM

Hey guys, I noticed the covers for the cogs aren't sticking too well to the base - we had a lot of cold weather here recently and I suspect that cauesd the glue to weaken. Any ideas on how I can secure them better?

Jarmak•1/24/25, 10:12 PM

Hey stupid question: trying to mark the motor's center of rotation by setting endpoints to 0 and 4096 and turning on the spring... but it's displaying an X value of 0048 with the spring on...shouldn't it be 2048?

Jarmak•1/24/25, 10:14 PM

nm it was a stupid question, I'm looking at the wrong x value, raw x is showing 2072

Rocco Thamanoidis•1/25/25, 12:58 AM

Walmis, I'm onto something for the motor disconnect/timeout failure that occurs so often to some users incl. myself while flying DCS: Most likely its TelemFFB looking for Microsoft Flightsimulator and trying to connect to SimConnect!!

Rocco Thamanoidis•1/25/25, 12:59 AM

Rocco Thamanoidis•1/25/25, 1:00 AM

So the solution meanwhile is to disable "MSFS 2020/2024 Support" while running DCS:

Rocco Thamanoidis•1/25/25, 1:02 AM

I was testing for the past 8hr and didnt have a single motor timeout/disconnect. Usually the Rhino shuts itself down like every 10-30min.

Rocco Thamanoidis•1/25/25, 3:27 PM

Also today not a single shutdown, man thats so amazing. All those painfull weeks of troubleshooting, crashes due to disconnections. I was almost about to send the Rhino back for repair. I assume the rapid and constant searching for the simconnect connection makes it so unstable.

Bob Bushman•1/25/25, 3:48 PM

for the time being.
I'd say PIN THIS!

Reed•1/25/25, 5:41 PM

Who is running a PCIE card that adds USB’s I’ve got a four port USBPCIE card that I want to install in my open PCI slot so I can move some of my controllers back to the main PC. I’ve got a powered at USB hub is full and I’m adding a couple of more controllers to my pit has anyone seen any performance derogation if that PCIE slot is on the same lane as one of your M.two drives

Nathan Woodward•1/26/25, 12:49 AM

Having a problem I can't figure out. After setting up and installing my Rhino, DCS will not load past the initial splash screen. The instant I unplug the Rhino USB, DCS gets past the splash screen and loads up. If I plug the Rhino back in at this time, no buttons on the stick are recognized ..... It DOES show up on the Controls list as a device, however no button presses are recognized.
Within the Rhino software, all button presses are recognized.
Thoughts/help??

Priest•1/26/25, 2:56 AM

try rescan devices button within DCS?

PPriest try rescan devices button within DCS?

Nathan Woodward•1/26/25, 3:02 AM

While this may help it register within DCS, I don't think it will solve the primary problem, that of freezing DCS at the splash screen.

Thank you, that solved it! Sadly if the official VKB Stock for the blackbox is sold out i don't know

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