Hi everybody 👋 , a quick question for you guys technically more sophisticated than me: Does it make

Hi everybody

, a quick question for you guys technically more sophisticated than me:
Does it make a difference (in terms of being gentle to the Rhino hardware or keeping the motors in their comfort zone), whether you set "spring gain" to 100% in the config software and then dial down the potentiometer on the Rhino to, let's say to 50% versus setting "spring gain" to 50% in the config software and then cranking up the potentiometer to full whack?

TTheDude9974 Hi everybody 👋 , a quick question for you guys technically more sophisticated t...

Number481•1/30/25, 2:11 PM

The spring gain slider is the ultimate gating factor as to how strong the spring force can get. Gain slider at %100 with potentiometer turned to %50 is the same as Gain slider %50 with potentiometer at %100.

smitty•1/30/25, 2:13 PM

100% x 50% = 50% x 100% but having the gain slider at 100% will allow you to adjust higher with the pot if you want more

smitty•1/30/25, 2:15 PM

i keep mine at 100% 100% and use telemffb to lower the strength at various levels for different planes.. so when its on autopilot it's very strong but i'm not forcing it so motors stay happy

TTheDude9974 Hi everybody 👋 , a quick question for you guys technically more sophisticated t...

Xaero Zero•1/30/25, 2:19 PM

i do use 75% and it's more than enough to fight the stick and feel the preassure. I do no sweat as i am when simracing with 25nm base (i end up full wet after 2h race), but this 75% of 57 motor feels right and correct for any situation i've encountered

Xaero Zero•1/30/25, 2:21 PM

100% spring gain would be hard to manage as side stick or center with no extension, there is no aircraft that will require that much of force i think

Xaero Zero•1/30/25, 2:22 PM

unless you fly birds and heavy lift things

TheDude9974OP•1/30/25, 2:22 PM

@Number481 @smitty thank you mates for the quick reply

. I do understand the math, but I got no clue regarding electrical or torque forces in the Rhino (or in general, that is

).
The reason that came to my mind in the first place was, that unnoticed by me, I must have dialed down the potentiometer to around 10 or 15%

and then got problems with stability (x axis went red) and I was wondering why the centering spring didn't work no more and everything felt spongy and floppy. So I thought maybe cranking up the potentiometer to 100% and never touching it again could prevent that issue. Smitty, I really like your suggestion to do the actual tuning in TelemFFB and thus having individual settings for each chopper

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Xaero Zero•1/30/25, 2:24 PM

i guess my comments out of scope of question ) but still

XXaero Zero i do use 75% and it's more than enough to fight the stick and feel the preassure...

TheDude9974OP•1/30/25, 2:24 PM

Thanks for your insights as well

. It was more a technical question regarding loads on the motor than how much would be realistic. I'm usually around 40-45% for helicopters with hydraulics and a bit more for helicopters without...

smitty•1/30/25, 2:26 PM

electrically, the motors only pull amps and make heat when youre pushing it away from its center. if you have everything cranked at 100% and you dont push on it, it wont warm up.

Ssmitty electrically, the motors only pull amps and make heat when youre pushing it away...

TheDude9974OP•1/30/25, 2:28 PM

That's the info I needed to make me feel comfortable

Xaero Zero•1/30/25, 2:37 PM

the thing that i love about this community, there are real people, who used real aircraft and they can tell how that really feels. You can't find this in any other community out there. Every time i check someone's profile, it's some retired pilot of real aircraft.

XXaero Zero the thing that i love about this community, there are real people, who used real...

TheDude9974OP•1/30/25, 2:43 PM

Yeah, the flight simming community in general and this "technically" focussed community particularly are awesome, I agree

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I'm not a licensed helicopter pilot, but I treat myself with RL helicopter lessons every now and then. So at least I know, which feeling I wanna reproduce with the Rhino, my problem is more the "how to get there"

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TTheDude9974 Yeah, the flight simming community in general and this "technically" focussed co...

Xaero Zero•1/30/25, 2:49 PM

glad it's not like iRacing, when fictional 14yo decide what's real on race car they never drove and when "pros" are video game "pros" and did not handled actual car in that conditions ever )))

Xaero Zero•1/30/25, 2:52 PM

i have not much FS exp (learning), but from simracing community, it was like breath of fresh air. People who never been in show drift in real car tells about how it feels when ABS kicks in... when IRL it kicks in, you pray the hell out it to work and steer b/c life depends on it ) maybe i exaturate, but it's night and day between Racing vs Flight community

Xaero Zero•1/30/25, 2:55 PM

I just need a topic to spin out, please ignore me )

TheDude9974OP•1/30/25, 2:56 PM

I've never been on an iRacing Discord, but I can imagine. I've seen a guy reviewing a MSFS2020 helicopter, flying it with a Cessna yoke and stating, that the helicopter is not simulated realistically

. He was older than 14, though

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Xaero Zero•1/30/25, 3:17 PM

not all heros wear capes )))

Xaero Zero•1/30/25, 3:30 PM

I've got nice wheels and nice wheelbase for simracing, but it doesn't have this feeling for some reason. I don't know it's either due to thing being self made or due to it's aircraft.
Every time i touch flight controller (F18 TM grip) i feel like there is weight behind it, as i almost lift up my right with it. I do not get same feeling with race gear (wheel/base)
Maybe it's mental thing, but i feel the weight of aircraft throughtout the stick

Xaero Zero•1/30/25, 3:32 PM

i guess i've just put not enough knots into sim yet, compared to seasoned people and real pilots (i got more than few K hours into simracing, that feeling fade away), but i hope this feeling of controlling actual machine will still be there

Xaero Zero•1/30/25, 3:34 PM

driving a car is more or less common, you can get it outside just by driving (actively or not), but aircraft, it's different beast, as if you touch some forbiddent territory of something you will never experience

XXaero Zero glad it's not like iRacing, when fictional 14yo decide what's real on race car t...

Anthony•1/30/25, 3:53 PM

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Xaero Zero•1/30/25, 4:12 PM

and these people say i'm crazy walking at house in OMP racing shoes ))))

XXaero Zero driving a car is more or less common, you can get it outside just by driving (ac...

m2times_•1/30/25, 4:30 PM

you can get an "introduction" flight at every aeroclub, where you will be flown in a training plane (think small cessnas) and will get to pilot it for a bit when in the air. If you want to just experience it. An actual license is very expensive because of the flight hours you have to make

Trigger•1/30/25, 6:24 PM

A discovery flight costs $100-$200USD and is well worth it for the experience.

Trigger•1/30/25, 6:25 PM

Tack on a zero and you can even fly in warbirds and jets haha.

Fr4Ged•1/30/25, 6:29 PM

With helicopters in-between

XXaero Zero I've got nice wheels and nice wheelbase for simracing, but it doesn't have this ...

TonyM•1/31/25, 3:36 AM

The problem with sim racing is that the settings etc…that make it more immersive in regards to IRL experience don’t make you faster in game. There, to be faster, you need different settings. So you have to choose between being fast in game or closer to IRL.
And yes almost nobody in these sim racing forums and discord hase any valuable experience with race cars. And sorry track days are not real racing experience with a race car. Some RL racers do obviously a good business w/ sim racing making Youtibe videos and selling AE gloves etc…

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Swoop•1/31/25, 12:25 PM

Hey guys. Does anyone know if the Rhino works with simhub? Thinking about buying the NLR HF8 which seems to be best through simhub and it would be great to consolidate everything. Just wondering about options

SSwoop Hey guys. Does anyone know if the Rhino works with simhub? Thinking about buying...

Xaero Zero•1/31/25, 2:54 PM

Simhub do support some flightsims (MSFS for sure, DSC too i think), but it's unrelated to Rhino / TelemFFB. You will be able to utilize Simhub's telemetry for that seat thing, but not TelemFFB's

XXaero Zero Simhub do support some flightsims (MSFS for sure, DSC too i think), but it's unr...

Swoop•1/31/25, 4:08 PM

Thanks - was hoping it could all be managed under one piece of software.