Thoughts?

ash callaghan
YouTube
explaining menswear as a woman (part 2)
the rule of thirds and the golden ratio explained from a mathematical point of view and applied to menswear and mens fashion trends. PART 2 of discussing menswear as a woman everything is alleged. this is not real. ily all really 00:00 intro 01:10 rule of thirds and the golden ratio 04:54 liminal space 06:22 bisection 08:44 how to look ta...
113 Replies
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
nah
seth
seth2mo ago
this video is funny i liked it a lot and had some solid analysis i think most of us here dont really think about fashion in the context of making us look like conventionally more appealing so maybe the entire back half talking about looking taller maybe doesnt click but i think i get it it's a big notion / desire in a lot of tiktok-y fashion folk and man she managed to show off some bookie fits
Smiles
Smiles2mo ago
i hate her the whole thing is just the inverse of the whole analysis of shit to be attractive or something, which is probably the point but i hate her for the same reason i hate that shut up and put shit on
Tandy
Tandy2mo ago
I hate micro cuts in vloggy/video essay content. It breaks the flow audibly
Smiles
Smiles2mo ago
ok no its the basically saying preference as a fact shes the worst any fuck dang and fuck seth
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
wait did she not say this is my opinion in this one she did for part 1
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrainOP2mo ago
Something something tiktok brain
seth
seth2mo ago
assuming smiles gives women grace is a big leap
algoresky
algoresky2mo ago
i like it she's just a different style of humor but same sort of content as that one guy that posts on youtube who isn't terrible and has a lot of stupid memes in his video
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
the humor is very British sorry humour
Smiles
Smiles2mo ago
casually explained?
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
Fibonawcci...
Smiles
Smiles2mo ago
shes actually homophobic i fear scared of men wearing crop tops
algoresky
algoresky2mo ago
that's a fuckin leap
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrainOP2mo ago
Bro it's just not in the golden ratio smh Read a book
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
no she covered her original crop top opinion where it was more that she hated it untucked
Smiles
Smiles2mo ago
how the fuck can you tuck a crop top can you explain that to me?
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
see that's what I was confused about
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrainOP2mo ago
Don't crop the top
Smiles
Smiles2mo ago
draw a diagram perhaps
algoresky
algoresky2mo ago
don't crop just tuck
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrainOP2mo ago
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SteezeTrain
SteezeTrainOP2mo ago
Hope this helps
Smiles
Smiles2mo ago
ya hence she hates crop tops ]hence
Tandy
Tandy2mo ago
See that’s just cropphobic
Smiles
Smiles2mo ago
she is homophobic
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
the fits she pulled up had shirts that were sitting at waist height when untucked I think??? the examples she chose as being bad were people that thought they also needed to buy a size up on a boxy crop so it cancelled itself oit 😭
Smiles
Smiles2mo ago
no i think she hates crop tops, some were not baggy its just not that deep i feel like really i can't tell how much of it is a bit if im not supposed to take her seriously 10/10 gr8 b8 m8
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
I was confused about where the bit was :caught:
Tandy
Tandy2mo ago
Dry british humor that isn’t making it across well?
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
not to me ig
Smiles
Smiles2mo ago
i hate the british as well that doesn't help
Tandy
Tandy2mo ago
Its also her hating baggy jeans riding low on the hips
Smiles
Smiles2mo ago
this is why i dislike it see she dislikes crop tops and works backwards from that its really that simple i think
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
I was going in expecting a meta breakdown of how women approach menswear discussion like the example she gave of misogynistic men trying to do that to women and the flaws in that approach
Smiles
Smiles2mo ago
her good outfits are the ones she likes, the bad ones are the ones she doesn't, and it has all this stupid math to either mock people or make her sound smarter or both anyway, wear rick skip this problem
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
I think I might have to agree with smiles on this ultimately just comes off as "these are my menswear opinions/preferences as a woman"
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrainOP2mo ago
You have destroyed all fashion content Damn
Smiles
Smiles2mo ago
its just like, viewing fashion through the lens of trying to get laid is so boring man do not care
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrainOP2mo ago
Agreed
Smiles
Smiles2mo ago
and functionally thats all this is just inverted
algoresky
algoresky2mo ago
how does the casual tie fit into the golden ratio
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
ok I got to the liminal space part and it just seems like she found a reason to shit on sagging pants :monkaS:
Smiles
Smiles2mo ago
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I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
not really sure what liminal spaces as a concept have to do with it when she just diluted it to "a space that makes me feel uncomfortable"
Tandy
Tandy2mo ago
its using the actual definition of it being a transitional space. Which is a reaching a bit
oman121
oman1212mo ago
:xd: ok i didnt read anything said before, but after watching the first half i still dissagry with trying to boil "good style" down to a small diferance in if the waist stits at 1/3 or ,6whtever. I just think fashion cant be made into a set of strict rules that "just work"
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
I'm assuming this is a bit bc seriously trying to equate the threshold of a metaphysical plane to the jeans gap is um an interpretation
oman121
oman1212mo ago
she has a weird hate of crop tops on men, idk why like yeah there are plent of bad fits with a super cropped shirt but there are also lots of good ones
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
uhhhhhhh she brought up the vertical stripes make you look taller point
oman121
oman1212mo ago
it still feels to "do this beacuse its right and math says so" than i think should be said about fashion
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
Seth :seth:
oman121
oman1212mo ago
:xd: oh no baggy jeans bad beacuse it makes you look short
Gatan do rock
Gatan do rock2mo ago
she starts laughing off the math fashion guys then quickly becomes what she was complaining about
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
yeah I'm not familiar with the meta so I'm assuming the how to look taller stuff is probably meant for them
Gatan do rock
Gatan do rock2mo ago
what a wild ride
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
was a bit confused why she pivoted there from wanting to explain proportions in general
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrainOP2mo ago
I think this is fun
Tandy
Tandy2mo ago
The lens of wanting to look taller is a relevant topic, the use of a liminal space is reaching
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrainOP2mo ago
In a photo maybe but won't you just look your height in person?
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
I mean I guess but like oman mentioned it's a bit reductive to seemingly use that to apply rigid rules
oman121
oman1212mo ago
tbh i think he was more laughing that they were using the wrong math. but i still agree the whole math based fashion thing is dumb
Tandy
Tandy2mo ago
You can camouflage it a bit. Also wearing lifts inside your shoes is a thing which can disguise it as well
awz5082
awz50822mo ago
it does not work
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
the Floridian politician special
Tandy
Tandy2mo ago
Also chunky shoes/heeled boots can add a bit of height without looking out of place, unlike the florida special
algoresky
algoresky2mo ago
what i love about all of this is not anything to do with the math bullshit or liminal space or whatever nonsense which is clearly just some hot takes as it's like her 8th video on menswear and she's out of ideas what i love about it is we are seeing in real time someone who is in the zeitgeist and connected with other "influencers" kicking off a real reaction against the baggy jeans and crop tops of the moment. we are seeing the zeitgeist being shifted in realtime. this is a proto version of the normcore article of 2011
awz5082
awz50822mo ago
if you're short enough in aura that you're measuring inches from risers, outfits, and heels, it's not really going to matter lol not in the way that those people think that height magically offers
Tandy
Tandy2mo ago
Nah but the incels care way to much
awz5082
awz50822mo ago
yup
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrainOP2mo ago
We are back to full rick
SteezeTrain
SteezeTrainOP2mo ago
Kiss 👏 heels 👏
Tandy
Tandy2mo ago
The real chad move is just wear gogo boots for that extra half a foot of height of course
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
the golden ratio thing was a bit odd for me bc it kinda seemed like she just likes a different trend
oman121
oman1212mo ago
it does really just seem like she has a taste and is using "rules" to argue that it is the correct taste
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
some of the examples she pulled up as being subjectively better would look frumpy now
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
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I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
like 4 and 6 here look quite sloppy
Tandy
Tandy2mo ago
They’re all very baggy and form hiding
oman121
oman1212mo ago
most of these are... just meh like they are fine outfits but nothing crazy here
awz5082
awz50822mo ago
yeah theyre really just clothes on a body
warpweftwatergate
I think the problem is that tall people are better than short people in every way So it’s hard to disguise that :xd:
warpweftwatergate
Jokes aside, don’t wear lifts It’s obvious and you’ll look stupid
algoresky
algoresky2mo ago
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warpweftwatergate
These are fine! Other than being Clark’s
Tandy
Tandy2mo ago
Nah see if you wear lifts and magically breach the 6 foot tall barrier you win life
oman121
oman1212mo ago
ok i cant take her seriously after this was in another video, as a good thing
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Smiles
Smiles2mo ago
wait
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
that's what I was getting like in 2010? low rise was in right which ig she likes so she's highlighting that so it would be on trend for its time
warpweftwatergate
Cosplay It’s cosplay
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
what 😭
carrion
carrion2mo ago
she said this wasnt serious in the vid summary so really everyone should be mad at the dumbass men in the comments earnestly agreeing with the video
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
what is the context for this
oman121
oman1212mo ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeWKsK_sOzw im honestly not sure this video is kinda all over the place
ash callaghan
YouTube
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I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
ok see now this is comedy I can understand
oman121
oman1212mo ago
are we sure :xd: i cant tell anymore
I'm Lagging
I'm Lagging2mo ago
I fucking thought those were skin colored tabis :caught: *alleged :boi:
carrion
carrion2mo ago
Wait i just turned on the sound and apparently she's br*tish so yeah basically I'm with smiles on this one
Gatan do rock
Gatan do rock2mo ago
what are the name of those sandals? it flipped the dadcore switch on me
oman121
oman1212mo ago
no clue
warpweftwatergate
Tevas maybe
Tandy
Tandy2mo ago
The real dadcore is birkenstocks, need that arch support for those aging hips
oman121
oman1212mo ago
:looky: im so lost she posted this as a "great outfit" like 4 months before this video
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oman121
oman1212mo ago
this is like the exact pants thing she was on hating :whybuffet:
Tandy
Tandy2mo ago
It’s because the jacket is long enough to hide the top of it
oman121
oman1212mo ago
second half she talks about hating the shape of wide pants like that that balloon out. beacuse it makes you "look sort"
Tandy
Tandy2mo ago
She hates crop tops and seeing boxers/skin. That fit doesn’t show skin
warpweftwatergate
What a loser Skin rules

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