Rotation, polygon rolling

Consider regular polygons with number of sides n=3,4,5… as shown in the figure. The center of mass of all the polygons is at height h from the ground. They roll on a horizontal surface about the leading vertex without slipping and sliding as depicted. The maximum increase in height of the locus of the center of mass for each polygon is Δ . Then, Δ depends on n and h as
Consider regular polygons with number of sides n=3,4,5… as shown in the figure. The center of mass of all the polygons is at height h from the ground. They roll on a horizontal surface about the leading vertex without slipping and sliding as depicted. The maximum increase in height of the locus of the center of mass for each polygon is Δ . Then, Δ depends on n and h as
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Nimboi [ping if answering]
The answer
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Nimboi [ping if answering]
I'm having trouble visualizing this
Nimboi [ping if answering]
The solution shows this diagram, I don't know what exactly's going on here
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flower
flower3w ago
ye to olympiad ka hai yaar
Nimboi [ping if answering]
lmao maybe
flower
flower3w ago
arey this is properties of triangle this makes sense cuz look
Opt
Opt3w ago
Oh this looks fun
flower
flower3w ago
@Opt take over mai bhi bhul gaya :p
Nimboi [ping if answering]
brother what i know how to take trig components the diagram i dont understand oh wait i think i do? hang on
Opt
Opt3w ago
Nimboi Simple logic. The highest the COM is gonna get is when one of the vertices is on the ground. So when the polygon has rotated by an angle of 2π/n
Nimboi [ping if answering]
ah bingo i got it
Opt
Opt3w ago
And like in the figure, half the angle rotated is gonna be π/n Ok, now, mind if i give you a different question? It was a fun one.
Opt
Opt3w ago
Take a vertex of the rolling polygon, and consider its locus as the polygon rolls. What is the area under one loop(segment) of the locus? This is a really fun result
Nimboi [ping if answering]
huh oke lemme try
Opt
Opt3w ago
Oh crap I forgot the proof myself
Nimboi [ping if answering]
lmao it seems to be tracing out an arc with the angle being the same as the angle of the polygon (upon first rotation) and on second rotation, it traces out the side of the polygon my method doesnt seem very rigorous im just working w the example of a triangle and a square and seeing what results feel generalizable
SirLancelotDuLac
Well, the topmost point is when the polygon stands on vertex. The height of the polygon-given h is the required height.
Nimboi [ping if answering]
my method isnt exactly rigorous but is it $\pi l^{2}\cdot\frac{\left(n-2\right)}{n} +$ the area of the shape itself
TeXit
TeXit3w ago
Nimboi [ping if answering]
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Nimboi [ping if answering]
yuss i got that opt proposed a new question
Opt
Opt3w ago
Uhhh I don't remember the formula, but i remember the result
SirLancelotDuLac
Ah sorry.
Opt
Opt3w ago
It's (area of regular polygon)+2(area of its circumscribed circle)
Nimboi [ping if answering]
2*area of the sector with radius l (length of side) and angle of the shape + the area of the shape area of its circumscribed circle as in? are we saying the same thing
Opt
Opt3w ago
Ok it's Area of regular polygon + $\frac{\pi l^{2}}{2}cosec^{2}\left(\frac{\pi}{n}\right)$
TeXit
TeXit3w ago
Opt
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Nimboi [ping if answering]
what 🧍
Opt
Opt3w ago
Just some basic trigo to figure out circumradius Then 2πR²
Nimboi [ping if answering]
so for a square it'd be area + pi.l^2/4 i'm getting area + pi.l^2/2 hm
hardcoreisdead
pls ping me when u get a proper soln

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