Amines/Elimination

After MeI makes N(Me)3+, shouldn't there be E1cb reaction to form (3)? Answer:(2)
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Opt
Opt7d ago
Oh, a Hoffman elimination been a while since I saw this.
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP7d ago
Yeah, but the answer key says it should be saytzeff product. Would there be E2 or something instead of E1cb?
Opt
Opt7d ago
E1cB gives you (2) here doesn't it? Abstract proton from beta carbon, you get a resonance stabilised carbanion, electron pairs shifts to pi bonding orbitals, kicks out the NMe3
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP7d ago
Ah. But doesn't the steric hindrance makes the base abstract proton from the right-most carbon?
Opt
Opt7d ago
Trimethyl nitrogen is much more of a steric hindrance than a phenyl group
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP7d ago
Ah. So whenever there is a N(Me)3 group attached to carbon chain, we abstract proton from the most stable carbocation location or looking at steric hindrance? (In general cases)
Opt
Opt7d ago
Carbanion, but yes Especially with a bulky basr *base
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP7d ago
I see. Carbanion stability>steric hindrance.. +solved @Opt
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