Mechanics, taut string

I don't understand the question 🤷 Isn't the string already taut? What am I supposed to do here
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iTeachChem Helper
iTeachChem Helper•5d ago
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iTeachChem Helper•5d ago
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Opt
Opt•5d ago
It's not going to be taut after they're released Since the component of velocity of each along the string is not the same initially
Sephrina
Sephrina•5d ago
which app?
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•5d ago
The tension acting on the ball at rest tends to give it velocity while taking it away from the moving one. Oh wait sorry misread the question.
Nimboi [ping if answering]
ohk managed to figure that part out, but what causes the velocities to change? because in my mental image the velocities of the balls dont end up changing and the answer just becomes mv^2, which is wrong yeh both of them are moving but huh tension changing velocity lemme think about how that happens allen, they gave us a bitsat test series
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•5d ago
After some time the string becomes taught, as a result the velocity changes due to impulse
Aetherfly
Aetherfly•5d ago
ok i think you get the taut part, next think from the frame of the left ball
Nimboi [ping if answering]
oh wow, how exactly my brain broke a little trying to frame that numerically
Sephrina
Sephrina•5d ago
ohhhh okk thnks
Nimboi [ping if answering]
oke? am doing not sure what changing frame of reference does tho
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•5d ago
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SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•5d ago
After each ball covers l distance the string becomes taut once again, and impulse from tension distributes velocity among 2 balls.
Opt
Opt•5d ago
You mean tension?
Aetherfly
Aetherfly•5d ago
the velocity of ball 2 wrt ball1 is always at 45 degrees from ball1, so when ball2 is just above ball1, the distance between them is L and at that point string will apply impulsv
Opt
Opt•5d ago
I got this, but how will the kinetic energy be 3mv²/4?
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•5d ago
1/2mv^2+1/2m(v^2/4+v^2/4)=3/4mv^2
Opt
Opt•5d ago
Oh nvm i forgot the formula for kinetic energy I'm overworked today. I just did K = mv²
Nimboi [ping if answering]
so here's what i did $\newline$ For the top ball, velocity upwards is $v$ and then a downward velocity by the tension impulse $u$ acts on it $\newline$ So $J = \delta p = \int{Tdt} = (mv-mu) - (mv) \newline$ Which means $-mu = \int{Tdt} \newline$ For the bottom ball in the $y$ direction, there's $v$ towards the right and $u$ upward. $\newline$ Conserving momentum in $y$, we get $J = mu - 0 = \int{Tdt} \newline$ Therefore $mu = -mu$ and u = 0 $\newline$ What did I do wrong does it not add newlines? oh well lemme try
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•5d ago
Ig its \newline I'm not sure tho For upwards ball, J=mv-mu and for the bottom ball its mu=J so mu=mv-mu right? (Also J is magnitude of impulse here.)
TeXit
TeXit•5d ago
Nimboi [ping if answering]
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Nimboi [ping if answering]
nice oh shit i added u in the starting
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•5d ago
Yeah the impulse=mu not -mu (where u is final velocity)
Nimboi [ping if answering]
wait initially its v then its v-u ah yes i did a brainfart my bad brilliant thank you really nice problem +solved @SirLancelotDuLac
iTeachChem Helper
iTeachChem Helper•5d ago
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