Limit of Sum as Integral

Should not both S and T be less greater than the required integral, i.e., pi/3sqrt(3)?
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Opt
Opt4mo ago
I am very confused. Tn = Sn - 1/3n for all n, and that means Tn is always less than the corresponding Sn. I couldn't find a reliable way to compare Sn and S(n+1) though, so I have no way of saying whether {Sn} is a decreasing or increasing series
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP4mo ago
S_n must be increasing because positive terms are being added, right? And S_n must also be less than the integral required so wouldn't it be A and C?
Opt
Opt4mo ago
Positive terms being added yes, but each term in S(n+1) is not the same as the corresponding term in Sn
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP4mo ago
Oh right, mb. Then we could look at it as a left reimann sum?
BlindSniper
BlindSniper4mo ago
sometimes the website is wrong tho, what does the solution say?
Opt
Opt4mo ago
That's the thing, it converges as n tends to infinity, but we don't even know if it's an increasing or decreasing series. So we can't say anything about the values of Sn
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP4mo ago
It approaches the integral from below, so must be increasing right? Yea, but janta is with the correct marked options with this one. :sweaty:
BlindSniper
BlindSniper4mo ago
sometimes the answer is the 30% one while the 48% is wrong doesn't necessarily have to be the majority happened to me plenty of times
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP4mo ago
Ah. Will check once tommorrow.
BlindSniper
BlindSniper4mo ago
alr
Opt
Opt4mo ago
Official JEE Adv answer key says AD
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP4mo ago
Yeah it does. :/ I also looked at a few solutions and they seem to be converging on the following two points: 1. 1/(1+x+x^2) is decreasing in (0,1) 2. One claimed that Tn is the right riemann sum left riemann sum (which approaches from above, idk why I thought f is increasing) of the integral. I fail to see how 1 is relevant and as for the other, for right riemann sum, shouldn't the range be 1 to n+1 and not 0 to n-1? Oh wait I'm dumb, 1 and 2 are meant to be the same point ;; But, then shouldn't the answer be B and D?
Opt
Opt4mo ago
@Dexter
Dexter
Dexter4mo ago
why am I summoned
Opt
Opt4mo ago
Tumhara favourite topic
Dexter
Dexter4mo ago
wait one tends to n and one tends to n-1 that's making the difference innit?
Dexter
Dexter4mo ago
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Dexter
Dexter4mo ago
Sochne wali baat hai
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP4mo ago
How is this conclusion drawn? 😭 @Jeeru Soda Sorry for the ping, but can you resolve this doubt? 🙏
CertifiedBrownMunda
Thoughts?
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP4mo ago
Sir where does the last statement come from? Ah I see. One approaches from above the other from below?
CertifiedBrownMunda
I am forgetting the name of this property but as far as I remember I saw this in some coaching module Old Allen or FIITJEE Maybe taken from Maron's textbook
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP4mo ago
Ig the above question is misprinted over a lotta places :/
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SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP4mo ago
+solved @Jeeru Soda @Opt @Dexter @BlindSniper (BS)
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