Capacitor

Initial Charge = 2V after switch switched 2uf Capacitor Charge = 2V/5 Net Charge will be same and charge will divide depending on ratio of Capacitence 8uf Capacitor Charge = 8V/5 Now Q^2/2C - q^2/2C Q = 2V q = 2v/5 but am not getting ans
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Kavy jain
Kavy jain4mo ago
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Kavy jain
Kavy jain4mo ago
Vc common potential iska formula hota Hai q1±q2/c1+c2 8 wale pe shuru me 0 h Energy ka 1/2cv2 wala use Kiya h
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
what does Vc signify and whats wrong with what i did
Kavy jain
Kavy jain4mo ago
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Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
ye i dont understanc it properly
Opt
Opt4mo ago
This is just gonna be q²(1/Ceff - 1/2) ja? Minus of that rather
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
why
Opt
Opt4mo ago
Total energy in initial circuit - total energy in final circuit Charge is conserved
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
why the total? isnt it ONLY Talking abt the 2uf capacitor
Opt
Opt4mo ago
They've asked energy dissipated na? That's energy loss
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
and the charge distribution i did is it right?
Opt
Opt4mo ago
No, they mean energy loss in that process
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
FROM the 2uf? wha
Opt
Opt4mo ago
From circuit
Acexy
Acexy4mo ago
pehle wale case me toh 8uf pe charge hi nhi hai
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
ye we are checking how much of its stored energy is lost
Acexy
Acexy4mo ago
dusre case me jab join karenge tabhi toh aayega
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
so shouldnt we compare THE ENERGY OF 2uf in the initial AND Final to compare
Acexy
Acexy4mo ago
Iska formula bhi toh hota haii Direct Mod me v1-v2 ka square something karke
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
am asking what i did is wrong? also from the language it says how much if its stored energy it lost so shouldnt we compare the 2uf with 2uf why u taking total @Opt
Opt
Opt4mo ago
You can't say its from just the 2uF one??
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
look hear me out
Opt
Opt4mo ago
Energy loss happens from a circuit, not from one capacitor
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
at first there is energy in 2uf then something something happens
Opt
Opt4mo ago
If it's going to another capacitor, it isn't getting dissipated.... Dissipated implies loss
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
then if we check energy of 2uf in the final and subtract it shouldnt we get the total loss in energy of 2uf ye thats why
Opt
Opt4mo ago
It's not of 2uF that's asked. Read the question It's just asking for the energy dissipated
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
"the percent of ITS energy dissapated" and it only talked abt 2uf capacitor
Opt
Opt4mo ago
Its stored energy. The energy that was stored in it.
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
yes we want to see ITS Loss so shouldnt we COMPARE ITS
Opt
Opt4mo ago
Also, if it goes to another capacitor, it isn't getting dissipated
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
inital and final
Opt
Opt4mo ago
It's getting transferred
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
ye exactly tahts why
Opt
Opt4mo ago
Yeah, so you don't consider just 2uF You consider the entire circuit Ok, solve it with my logic, and if you get the right answer, I'm correct?
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
ok , but tell if my charge distribution logic is correct atleast
Opt
Opt4mo ago
Charge distribution is correct, but it's not really necessary
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
what
Opt
Opt4mo ago
You can do charge distribution and consider energy of both, yeah, sure.
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
u are saying to do intial in 2uf - final (2uf and 8uf)
Opt
Opt4mo ago
Yup
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
u talking abt this right?
Opt
Opt4mo ago
With same charge Total
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
ye makes no sense to me but still i wll try 2V^2 - 4v^2/50c - 64V^2/50c 2v^2 - 34V^2/25C = 16V^2/25C and on taking % its coming out to be 16 @Opt
Opt
Opt4mo ago
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Opt
Opt4mo ago
Are you sure you're fine today? Why are you doing this so wrong? Like, I'm not trying to offend you, it's just that you don't generally do these kinds of things.
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
i have been off for like weeks now oh wait so u just took the eq capacitnece and found its energy? damn
Opt
Opt4mo ago
Yes
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
i rechecked the calc i dont see anything wrong wahts wrong with taking them seprately? i checked again its coming out to be 16% wait am sending a pic
Opt
Opt4mo ago
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Opt
Opt4mo ago
You get the same answer @Gamertug
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
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Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
@Opt what am i doing wrong 😭
Opt
Opt4mo ago
Denominator mein kuch gadbad ho raha hai
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
1/2 - 1/10 / 1/2
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Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
5/10 - 1/10 / 1/2 4/10 / 1/2 ooh its 80 what exactly i cant find anything wrong
Opt
Opt4mo ago
Yup Try doing it again, but writing down the formulae and substituting one by one. You might have made an error there
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
i did it twice i got 16% wait a second
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
i why u got 1/8 by 8uf capacitor energy @Opt
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Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
and why extra 1/2
Opt
Opt4mo ago
Q²/2C is the formula
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
i did apply that for 2uf = 2v/5
Opt
Opt4mo ago
Why are you doing this with charges squared??
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
for 8uf = 8v/5
Opt
Opt4mo ago
That's the charge.... Not the energy
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
ik am using Q^2/2c Charge i mean energy
Opt
Opt4mo ago
Ok, doesn't matter since you divide
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
ye
Opt
Opt4mo ago
But still, I'm not seeing that C in your working
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
and wdym by charges squared
Opt
Opt4mo ago
There won't be a 64 No chance
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
8 squared is 64 wdym there wont be 64V^2/50C
Opt
Opt4mo ago
But you have to divide by eight for C na??
Gamertug
GamertugOP4mo ago
oh fuk 😭
iTeachChem
iTeachChem4mo ago
+solved @Opt
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