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someone pls give the mechanism for this
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CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP4mo ago
the triple bond up there is converted to ethane using nanh2 ig...
flower
flower4mo ago
Yo dude change your titles Like doubt titles Make it related to the topic of the question instead Or maybe the type of reaction in this case
Nimboi
Nimboi4mo ago
the 2 equivalents of NaNH2 is quite clever NaNH2 is also a base apart from the Birch reduction reagent and terminal alkynes are acidic so NaNH2 abstracts the terminal alkyne proton, making -C≡C(-) i wanna say Birch reduction but i don't think it can happen with -C≡C(-) so maybe the second equivalent of NaNH2 abstracts the proton from the -OH, making O(-) uhh is it (B) or (D)? if so, which one of those
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP4mo ago
4 rxn hai ques mei lol kya hi title dalu B isnt birch reduction done using na and liq nh3
Weirdo
Weirdo4mo ago
First is NaNh2, excellent base as an entropically favourable mechanism Hence the 2 H+ can poof , first the sp carbon and then the oxygen Next is an alkyl halide with a good leaving group , so the sp hybridized carbonion can attack now Next is another alkyl hallidE wow , so prol just the oxide ion can do it's job Now it's just hydrogenation ( rosemund I belive? ) So prol will turn the tripple bond to double , as the hydrogenation is done in the presence of a poison ( pd-baso4) Making the answer b? A take away from this question is carbanion even tho being sp hybridized, having less s character than the oxide ( sp3 ) still doesn't do enough to overcome the electronegativity of oxygen in general
Nimboi
Nimboi4mo ago
Na + liq NH3 forms NaNH2 but anyway birch reduction is not happening here because NaNH2 would much prefer to be a strong base to a terminal alkyne (faster reaction) my problem is how would you know which alkyl chain goes where after you get -C≡C(-) and -O(-) that's exactly why B and D are given as a separate options
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP4mo ago
So like this
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CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP4mo ago
having the same doubt my guess is triple bond carbon is less electronegative than O ( as pointed above) so -ve charge will be unstable on it , to stabilise ethyl grp goes there
Opt
Opt4mo ago
Strong base, 2eq → Abstracts two protons, one from OH, one from terminal alkyne Ethyl iodide self ionises into ethyl carbocation + iodide. Electrophile carbocation is generated. Carbon nucleophile is better than oxygen nucleophile so ethyl gets connected to the sp-hybridised carbon. Methyl carbocation in the next step connects to oxygen nucleophile. Partial reduction by lindlar to cis alkene. Option B? Yup, this is the point. Carbon nucleophile is better than O nucleophile due to EN.
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP4mo ago
got it thanx @Nimboi can i close
Nimboi
Nimboi4mo ago
ah, ok this confuses me fundamentally how can a triple bonded carbon simply have more EN when EN is supposed to be the property of an atom ill just look it up actually i need to revise atomic structure and chemical bonding yeah sure
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP4mo ago
ab toh adv ho gya na tumhara?
Nimboi
Nimboi4mo ago
didnt give adv, doing bitsat that's on 30th for me and also in june 2nd attempt
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP4mo ago
not always ig
Nimboi
Nimboi4mo ago
its some orbital reason that's why we say "more s character more EN"
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP4mo ago
we measure EN using s character too yeahh
Nimboi
Nimboi4mo ago
alr yeh feel free to close it this is a different question now anyway
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP4mo ago
+solved @Opt
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