Solid state, % of oxidation states in non-stoichiometric compounds

How do I do these type of questions? What's the core concept?
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flower
flower4mo ago
yo bro paper ho gaya na kal to?? and i have an approach for this thru Redox nvm diff questions
Nimboi [ping if answering]
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iTeachChem
iTeachChem4mo ago
workind please :) this is charge balance and mass balance! pyq hai btw
Nimboi [ping if answering]
my thought process was: M+2 is M2O2, i.e. M1O1 M+3 is M2O3, i.e. M 0.66 O1 since the given compound is M 0.83 O1, and 0.83 is the midpoint of 1 and 0.66, the percentages of +2 and +3 must be 50% each apparently wrong charge balance/mass balance how? what's the concept
flower
flower4mo ago
right right ok
Nimboi [ping if answering]
theoretically i understand the crystal needs to be electrically neutral but i dont get how to apply that to this question
iTeachChem
iTeachChem4mo ago
Don’t do this.
Cakey Bot
Cakey Bot4mo ago
iteachchem
Transcription requested by Nimboi [ping if answering]
So, here is the idea. You cross-check if your 50 will give you the answer, it won't, then you see kaha pe tum garbadi ki hai. Whatever answer you get, it should plug in and give you the same values that are in the question, right?
Cakey Bot
Cakey Bot4mo ago
iteachchem
Transcription requested by Nimboi [ping if answering]
What you need to do is total charge, minus two, okay, so minus two charge is given by X amount of what do you call it, M2 plus and 0.83 minus X amount of plus three. That is what you have to start with.
Nimboi [ping if answering]
ahh got it electrical neutrality brain kicked in every M(2+) x contributes 2, M(3+) contributes 3 and oxygen -2 gotchu why was this wrong? ohh neutrality wont be maintained if we directly just take that that's not how M 0.83 is defined got it thank u sir
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffin4mo ago
2x + 3(0.83-x) -2 = 0 x/0.83 should be the ans right ?
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffin4mo ago
alr btw can we think like 0.83 ions have a charge ( or oxdn state) of +2
Nimboi [ping if answering]
eh? x comes out to be 0.59 sorry no 0.49 you can think 0.49 ions have +2 charge and the rest have +3
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffin4mo ago
nvm this , diff thought process
Nimboi [ping if answering]
alr alr should i close?
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffin4mo ago
yeah
Nimboi [ping if answering]
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