Immich•7mo ago

Trying to store thumbs on another device than main images, but can't get it to work

Hi,

I'm trying to follow this (https://immich.app/docs/guides/custom-locations/) documentation page, to move thumbs and the other "fast needed" storage to a locally mounted block volume. I have my main images on a rclone mounted SFTP drive at

/mnt/hetzner_storage_box/immich-library

/mnt/hetzner_storage_box/immich-library

/mnt/hetzner_storage_box/immich-library

/mnt/hetzner_storage_box/immich-library, and trying to move the thumbs to a locally mounted block volume

/mnt/block_volume/immich

/mnt/block_volume/immich

/mnt/block_volume/immich

/mnt/block_volume/immich.

However immich keeps complaining that it can't find the thumbs folders. I'll put some useful info below:

docker-compose.yml and .env: https://bpa.st/IC2Q

Error log:

immich_server            | [Nest] 17  - 06/02/2025, 1:16:17 PM   ERROR [Api:GlobalExceptionFilter~c6zoalyr] Unknown error: Error: ENOENT: no such file or directory, access 'upload/thumbs/dbae834e-2cb3-4a05-9fe6-03cfdaf920b9/5b/d0/5bd08f04-aa8f-4349-8036-990298dfbef5-thumbnail.webp'
immich_server            | Error: ENOENT: no such file or directory, access 'upload/thumbs/dbae834e-2cb3-4a05-9fe6-03cfdaf920b9/5b/d0/5bd08f04-aa8f-4349-8036-990298dfbef5-thumbnail.webp'
immich_server            |     at async access (node:internal/fs/promises:605:10)
immich_server            |     at async sendFile (/usr/src/app/dist/utils/file.js:53:9)
immich_server            |     at async AssetMediaController.viewAsset (/usr/src/app/dist/controllers/asset-media.controller.js:60:13)

immich_server            | [Nest] 17  - 06/02/2025, 1:16:17 PM   ERROR [Api:GlobalExceptionFilter~c6zoalyr] Unknown error: Error: ENOENT: no such file or directory, access 'upload/thumbs/dbae834e-2cb3-4a05-9fe6-03cfdaf920b9/5b/d0/5bd08f04-aa8f-4349-8036-990298dfbef5-thumbnail.webp'
immich_server            | Error: ENOENT: no such file or directory, access 'upload/thumbs/dbae834e-2cb3-4a05-9fe6-03cfdaf920b9/5b/d0/5bd08f04-aa8f-4349-8036-990298dfbef5-thumbnail.webp'
immich_server            |     at async access (node:internal/fs/promises:605:10)
immich_server            |     at async sendFile (/usr/src/app/dist/utils/file.js:53:9)
immich_server            |     at async AssetMediaController.viewAsset (/usr/src/app/dist/controllers/asset-media.controller.js:60:13)

immich_server            | [Nest] 17  - 06/02/2025, 1:16:17 PM   ERROR [Api:GlobalExceptionFilter~c6zoalyr] Unknown error: Error: ENOENT: no such file or directory, access 'upload/thumbs/dbae834e-2cb3-4a05-9fe6-03cfdaf920b9/5b/d0/5bd08f04-aa8f-4349-8036-990298dfbef5-thumbnail.webp'
immich_server            | Error: ENOENT: no such file or directory, access 'upload/thumbs/dbae834e-2cb3-4a05-9fe6-03cfdaf920b9/5b/d0/5bd08f04-aa8f-4349-8036-990298dfbef5-thumbnail.webp'
immich_server            |     at async access (node:internal/fs/promises:605:10)
immich_server            |     at async sendFile (/usr/src/app/dist/utils/file.js:53:9)
immich_server            |     at async AssetMediaController.viewAsset (/usr/src/app/dist/controllers/asset-media.controller.js:60:13)

immich_server            | [Nest] 17  - 06/02/2025, 1:16:17 PM   ERROR [Api:GlobalExceptionFilter~c6zoalyr] Unknown error: Error: ENOENT: no such file or directory, access 'upload/thumbs/dbae834e-2cb3-4a05-9fe6-03cfdaf920b9/5b/d0/5bd08f04-aa8f-4349-8036-990298dfbef5-thumbnail.webp'
immich_server            | Error: ENOENT: no such file or directory, access 'upload/thumbs/dbae834e-2cb3-4a05-9fe6-03cfdaf920b9/5b/d0/5bd08f04-aa8f-4349-8036-990298dfbef5-thumbnail.webp'
immich_server            |     at async access (node:internal/fs/promises:605:10)
immich_server            |     at async sendFile (/usr/src/app/dist/utils/file.js:53:9)
immich_server            |     at async AssetMediaController.viewAsset (/usr/src/app/dist/controllers/asset-media.controller.js:60:13)

A command that shows there is definitely a file there:

$ ls -lha /mnt/block_volume/immich/thumbs/dbae834e-2cb3-4a05-9fe6-03cfdaf920b9/5b/d0/5bd08f04-aa8f-4349-8036-990298dfbef5-thumbnail.webp
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 16K May 24 16:40 /mnt/block_volume/immich/thumbs/dbae834e-2cb3-4a05-9fe6-03cfdaf920b9/5b/d0/5bd08f04-aa8f-4349-8036-990298dfbef5-thumbnail.webp

$ ls -lha /mnt/block_volume/immich/thumbs/dbae834e-2cb3-4a05-9fe6-03cfdaf920b9/5b/d0/5bd08f04-aa8f-4349-8036-990298dfbef5-thumbnail.webp
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 16K May 24 16:40 /mnt/block_volume/immich/thumbs/dbae834e-2cb3-4a05-9fe6-03cfdaf920b9/5b/d0/5bd08f04-aa8f-4349-8036-990298dfbef5-thumbnail.webp

$ ls -lha /mnt/block_volume/immich/thumbs/dbae834e-2cb3-4a05-9fe6-03cfdaf920b9/5b/d0/5bd08f04-aa8f-4349-8036-990298dfbef5-thumbnail.webp
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 16K May 24 16:40 /mnt/block_volume/immich/thumbs/dbae834e-2cb3-4a05-9fe6-03cfdaf920b9/5b/d0/5bd08f04-aa8f-4349-8036-990298dfbef5-thumbnail.webp

$ ls -lha /mnt/block_volume/immich/thumbs/dbae834e-2cb3-4a05-9fe6-03cfdaf920b9/5b/d0/5bd08f04-aa8f-4349-8036-990298dfbef5-thumbnail.webp
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 16K May 24 16:40 /mnt/block_volume/immich/thumbs/dbae834e-2cb3-4a05-9fe6-03cfdaf920b9/5b/d0/5bd08f04-aa8f-4349-8036-990298dfbef5-thumbnail.webp

Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Also I can't seem to bash into the container to do an ls from there.

Immich•6/2/25, 11:33 AM

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Mraedis•6/2/25, 12:33 PM

Did you move the folders after changing the mounts too?

Mraedis•6/2/25, 12:33 PM

If not, you need to do that first.

PuddingvlaaiOP•6/2/25, 12:33 PM

Yup, I did!

Mraedis•6/2/25, 12:33 PM

Sorry misread the error there

PuddingvlaaiOP•6/2/25, 12:33 PM

Copied to the new location, and moved the old location to thumbs.oldthumbs.old etc

Mraedis•6/2/25, 12:34 PM

Can you do the lsls command from inside the container

Mraedis•6/2/25, 12:34 PM

i.e.

docker exec immich_server ls -la /usr/src/app/upload/thumbs/dbae834e-2cb3-4a05-9fe6-03cfdaf920b9/5b/d0/5bd08f04-aa8f-4349-8036-990298dfbef5-thumbnail.webp

docker exec immich_server ls -la /usr/src/app/upload/thumbs/dbae834e-2cb3-4a05-9fe6-03cfdaf920b9/5b/d0/5bd08f04-aa8f-4349-8036-990298dfbef5-thumbnail.webp

PuddingvlaaiOP•6/2/25, 12:36 PM

docker exec immich_server ls -la /usr/src/app/upload/thumbs/dbae834e-2cb3-4a05-9fe6-03cfdaf920b9/5b/d0/5bd08f04-aa8f-4349-8036-990298dfbef5-thumbnail.webp
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 15702 May 24 16:40 /usr/src/app/upload/thumbs/dbae834e-2cb3-4a05-9fe6-03cfdaf920b9/5b/d0/5bd08f04-aa8f-4349-8036-990298dfbef5-thumbnail.webp

docker exec immich_server ls -la /usr/src/app/upload/thumbs/dbae834e-2cb3-4a05-9fe6-03cfdaf920b9/5b/d0/5bd08f04-aa8f-4349-8036-990298dfbef5-thumbnail.webp
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 15702 May 24 16:40 /usr/src/app/upload/thumbs/dbae834e-2cb3-4a05-9fe6-03cfdaf920b9/5b/d0/5bd08f04-aa8f-4349-8036-990298dfbef5-thumbnail.webp

PuddingvlaaiOP•6/2/25, 12:36 PM

without a problem!

PuddingvlaaiOP•6/2/25, 12:36 PM

I've also noticed that this doesn't happen always. If it happens, a restart of the server (

docker compose down

docker compose down

, docker compose up -ddocker compose up -d) sometimes fixes the problem

Mraedis•6/2/25, 12:38 PM

mmm

Mraedis•6/2/25, 12:39 PM

Wondering whether it's simply a matter of the file not being reachable yet when it's needed

Mraedis•6/2/25, 12:39 PM

You could run the "missing" thumbs job and see if your server complains about any other thumbs missing

PuddingvlaaiOP•6/2/25, 12:45 PM

I've also noticed that the thumbsthumbs, backupsbackups, encoded-videoencoded-video directories reappear in the old /mnt/hetzner_storage_box/immich-library//mnt/hetzner_storage_box/immich-library/ directory on startup. Also not sure where those appear from

Mraedis•6/2/25, 12:46 PM

it's a docker thing

PuddingvlaaiOP•6/2/25, 12:47 PM

Now on startup there is no problem at all, and running the missing thumbs job does nothing

PuddingvlaaiOP•6/2/25, 12:47 PM

I'm confused and I can't figure it out

Mraedis•6/2/25, 12:47 PM

Hurray

Mraedis•6/2/25, 12:47 PM

I wouldn't worry about it unless thumbs start missing in your GUI

PuddingvlaaiOP•6/2/25, 12:48 PM

Yeah sometimes they do, which is weird. I did have a mistake in my backup script though at first (stopping and starting the containers did not correctly add the bind mounts and such), but I think I fixed that

PuddingvlaaiOP•6/2/25, 12:49 PM

But maybe that is still a problem, I may need to check that again

PuddingvlaaiOP•6/4/25, 10:00 AM

Ah it seems I have the exact same issue as discussed here: https://github.com/immich-app/immich/discussions/11944

PuddingvlaaiOP•6/4/25, 10:05 AM

which is super annoying

PuddingvlaaiOP•6/4/25, 10:06 AM

Ugh

Trying to store thumbs on another device than main images, but can't get it to work

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