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iTeachChem•3mo ago
Fusion

Functions doubt (Q161)

The answer as given in the answer key is 2 However, I'm getting 1
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iTeachChem Helper
iTeachChem Helper•3mo ago
@Apu @Apu
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iTeachChem Helper•3mo ago
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iTeachChem Helper•3mo ago
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Fusion
FusionOP•3mo ago
Q163
Opt
Opt•3mo ago
Oh wait this had come up a while ago too
Fusion
FusionOP•3mo ago
Not 161 Mb
Opt
Opt•3mo ago
Oh nvm
Fusion
FusionOP•3mo ago
Although I also have a doubt in 161 xD How do I solve 161 @Opt if you know the method
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•3mo ago
Ah. The function might be periodic I think in 161. Oh yeah it is periodic.
Fusion
FusionOP•3mo ago
How did you check? I cannot understand the problem solving approach for the life of me I know that I have to put some values and that it should be periodic or be in some series because the that's the only way the question would be solvable but idk how to approach this
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•3mo ago
Consider a quadratic of x^2-sqrt(3)x+1=0 and the value of f(n) are of form a.alpha^n+b.beta^n
Fusion
FusionOP•3mo ago
Isme quadratic kidhar se aaya 🫠
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•3mo ago
There is another method for these kinda questions. Look up how to solve simple second order linear recurrences for more detail ig. A simple way to look at it is this: You know how mewton's formula is proved? Similar kinda thing you have to do to prove the inverse of it.
Fusion
FusionOP•3mo ago
O I see However how did you arrive at x^2-sqrt(3)x+1=0 ? Why this particular quadratic
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•3mo ago
Yeah. Newton's formula says if f(n)=a.alpha^n+b.beta^n, f(n+1)->x^2, f(n)->x and f(n-1)->constant term gives a functional equation that is true for all n.
Fusion
FusionOP•3mo ago
I understand the proof of the roots now but I don't understand why this specific quadratic
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•3mo ago
Isn't that just the converse of that?
Opt
Opt•3mo ago
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Opt
Opt•3mo ago
I might have made a mistake? I got a recursion and extended it backwards Answer is 2
Opt
Opt•3mo ago
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Opt
Opt•3mo ago
@Fusion 163 or 161??
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•3mo ago
I'm guessing both. The question states f(n+1)-sqrt(3)f(n)+f(n-1)=0 right?
Fusion
FusionOP•3mo ago
Both
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•3mo ago
So, lets say you had a quadratic x^2-sqrt(3).x+1=0
Fusion
FusionOP•3mo ago
Yee Ah ok
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•3mo ago
And f(n)=a.alpha^n+b.beta^n where a and b are constants and alpha and beta are roots of the quadratic. Wouldn't that satisfy this? (proof similar to newton's formula)
Fusion
FusionOP•3mo ago
Yup. Got it Never tried to think this way Thank you too opt +solved @SirLancelotDuLac @Opt
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iTeachChem Helper•3mo ago
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