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iTeachChem Helper
iTeachChem Helper•3mo ago
@Gyro Gearloose
iTeachChem Helper
iTeachChem Helper•3mo ago
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CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP•3mo ago
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CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP•3mo ago
is my ans even dimensionally correct 😭
coolguy.
coolguy.•3mo ago
ans A hai
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP•3mo ago
nope
coolguy.
coolguy.•3mo ago
sorry B not A
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP•3mo ago
yep
coolguy.
coolguy.•3mo ago
i missed 2 in denom use work energy theorem final potential energy is zero initial potential energy calculate karlo ezpz
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP•3mo ago
potential energy kaise likhi
coolguy.
coolguy.•3mo ago
potential due to straight wire ka formula then PE=qv
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP•3mo ago
hmm nice idea but why doesnt my method work
coolguy.
coolguy.•3mo ago
yeah im trying to solve using your method it'll be a bad integration tho
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP•3mo ago
nah i just subbed 4a-acostheta = t
coolguy.
coolguy.•3mo ago
accha accha
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP•3mo ago
wait a min thats undefined for infinite wire
coolguy.
coolguy.•3mo ago
i'll take a look nah just integrate 1/x
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP•3mo ago
infinite ke lie potential diff defined hai
coolguy.
coolguy.•3mo ago
yes okay so one thing i noticed you forgot to take minus sign for negative charge
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP•3mo ago
omg wow. omg major blunders in integration too
coolguy.
coolguy.•3mo ago
e gg
Imine
Imine•3mo ago
damn
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP•3mo ago
idea shi hai calc bohot galat
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP•3mo ago
kisi ko aata ho toh bata do
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Imine
Imine•3mo ago
yeah but tooooo much work bro šŸ—æ
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP•3mo ago
only correct way up until now
Imine
Imine•3mo ago
wdym
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP•3mo ago
aur koi approach hai ?
Imine
Imine•3mo ago
. final toh 0 hai
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP•3mo ago
potential difference is defined for infinite wire
Imine
Imine•3mo ago
initial is V due to inf long wire for one charge= integration of Edr= integral of (2klambda/r) dr
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP•3mo ago
final potential diff is zero
Imine
Imine•3mo ago
yes cuz +q and -q at eaqual distances
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP•3mo ago
and initial potential diff is Vb- Va = 2klambda ln3 iss mein dipole multiply kara for potential energy?
Imine
Imine•3mo ago
wdym multiply seperate charges ka nikaalo
Sephrina
Sephrina•3mo ago
no kms typa name please
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP•3mo ago
working bhejna apni
Imine
Imine•3mo ago
ok fair me likhar bhejta hu
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP•3mo ago
give me back my original name pls šŸ™
Imine
Imine•3mo ago
potato lmaooo 😭
Imine
Imine•3mo ago
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Imine
Imine•3mo ago
@hardcoreisdead u can also assume potential at infinity to be 0 which will lead to energy in 2nd case to be 0
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP•3mo ago
alrr this makes sense thanx
Imine
Imine•3mo ago
np
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP•3mo ago
how to do using my method
coolguy.
coolguy.•3mo ago
Easy integral Convert denom cos to sin, then take sin=t Then convert to standard integral and solve Assuming that integral is the right result
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP•3mo ago
neeche cos^2 x hai denominator comes out to be 3a-asin^2x = t -2asinxcosx dx = dt
Sephrina
Sephrina•3mo ago
wait
coolguy.
coolguy.•3mo ago
Just take sinx=t Not the whole thing
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP•3mo ago
is this standard integral or smthing
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Opt
Opt•3mo ago
Yup But it won't give you a log It'll give you a arctan
vj25_
vj25_•3mo ago
bro instead of using dipole treat +q and -q as individual charges and then use work done=-deltaU delta V for infinite wire is 2klamda ln(r2/r1)
Nimboi
Nimboi•3mo ago
$\int \frac{dx}{x^2 + a^2} = \frac{1}{a} tan^{-1}(\frac{x}{a})$
TeXit
TeXit•3mo ago
Nimboi
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vj25_
vj25_•3mo ago
yeah this
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP•3mo ago
yeah aise aa gya but whats wrong in my method dipole lia hi nahi are the ans equal?

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