Self host query
IM currently self hosting a server, are my connection speeds and ram allocation enough for 5 decently spread out players from europe? alongside geyser of course.
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also my start flags
2 GB is very very low, there's a chance that it'll barely run however I'd suggest you go for at least 4-6 GB, preferably more like 10 GB if you're able to
Doesn't seem to be an issue so far
I'm using purpur
Also, sometimes more ram can be counter productive due to javas garbage collector
I also said 5 players, kind of unrealistic to use 10gbs of ram for a MC server 😂 especially with that many players
And this is spigot based, not fabric based, so no mods and such.
You're very very far from that point infact in your case more ram would help your jgc not hurt it
It is what is officialy recommended "no matter how few players"
Using purpur while the jar you're running is called paper.jar interesting
Purpur is a paper fork and never had anything to do directly with spigot, now even less that paper hardforked...
Well spigot paper etc are all very light weight
Compared to let's say fabric or modded servers
At the cost of vanilla features such as some redstone logic is not the same
Not exactly on a baseline fabric is much more lightweight than spigot, paper or alike, the difference comes from what mods can (and are used to) do compared to plugins that makes people think that
The 10 GB recommendation comes from the ppl at paper soo :rgb_shrug:
For 5 players?
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are you trolling?
what are you referencing by lightweight? paper by default is more performant than fabric without mods, unless you're talking about modifications to vanilla gameplay
what about you read the docs for yourself?
they recommend me to use 10gb of ram for 5 players
LOL
the 2. yes
not exactly true lol
most of my issues would probably be from networking
not really hardware
for what
ive had some people on and tps did not dip
LOL
to run a paper sever...
their default command in their docs is 4 gigs, so im not sure if thats right
so you recommend me for 5 players the amount of ram needed for 150?
10 gigs is insane for a small smp, whatever the recommendation is i think we can agree thats unnecessary for their size lmao
We recommend using at least 6-10GB, no matter how few players! If you can’t afford 10GB of memory, give as much as you can, but ensure you leave the operating system some memory too. G1GC operates better with more memory.thats exactly what i told him above
the max it would need would probably be 6.
thats fair.
i even went lower and said atleast 4-6
my query was mostly network requirements
though tbh depends on the jvm but thats just a bit pedantic for their use case
thats more than enough
well tahts some gaint bs its impossible to know how much ram a server needs based on player numbers alone
actually upload is low
although the ping does spike my anxiety
why is your upload so bad compared to download lol
to be fair, hosting providers do have the data to see
thats a crazy ratio
that upload will probably become a issue
yeah
but it should be fine for a small player base?
for 5 ppl?
yeah
yeah i'd think so
with scalability to lets say 20?
or is that pushing it
pushing it probably
interesting
i've never actually measured network perf per player, depends on a lot on the softw
lol minecraft wiki recommends specs, thats kinda neat.
i'd say you'd just have to test it out but might be fine
Usually, they're just lying to get you to buy things you don't need, either way, those numbers are worthless without doing proper studies on it as literally every server is different I can have 1 player with 50 giant farms needing 30GB and god knows what a CPU or I can have 10 players playing on 4gb no farms, etc etc. further more generalizing that would be like saying a paper server with 5 players needs the same amount of resources as a curse forge server with 5 players and a mod pack of 600 mods which obv isn't true under any circumstances
That's the bare minimum to run a server, i can run a server on my phone with 1GB of RAM that's not the problem here lol
actually the wiki seems to define minimum as something completely else
not sure where the hell they got these numbers from though
1 gig of ram for a minecraft server is... questionable
so according to those requirements
i could host 25 players with my network lol
doesnt seem realistic
i'd say ignore these requirements lmao
i'd just test it out
i connected to a vpn in florida
then connected to my home server
in the uk
the connection ping was playable
Yeah that again is based on player amount which as i said is very far from reliable
yep
depends on player network also
why in the world would you use a na vpn if your server is in the uk...
exponential test to see the speeds
rofl
smh
eh
i also tested a vpn in the uk
and in germany
and in france