Is Clerk integration with Neon Auth planned? Any ETA?
I'm considering migrating a project form Supabase to Neon + Clerk. I understand Neon Auth is in beta and only supports Stack Auth at the moment. Are there any plans to add support for Clerk?
In the meantime, I can still use Clerk with Neon by taking care of the syncing myself and in the future move to the built-in Neon Auth + Clerk integration, right?
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conscious-sapphire•4mo ago
There is no ETA on clerk integration. With recent changes in roadmap we are working on making Neon as source for auth data.
quickest-silverOP•4mo ago
"making Neon as source for auth data".
What does that mean?
Don't get me wrong, what you guys are doing with Neon is awesome. The whole branching, twins and everything regarding database is great. But there are already a lot of identity providers, both commercial cloud hosted as well as open source self-hostable ones.
Is that comment a suggestion that you guys will also be launching your own auth service...?
conscious-sapphire•4mo ago
"making Neon as source of auth data"
The Stack Auth will persist all auth data on Neon, on user's database. So there is no sync needed - manual or automated.
And no we won't be launching new Auth, it will still be Stack Auth.
quickest-silverOP•4mo ago
So is the Stack Auth integration in Neon Auth like a modified version of the self hosted Stack Auth version or do we still need to either self host Stack Auth or use their cloud version?
conscious-sapphire•4mo ago
You will still be using Stack Auth APIs and components. Just the data is stored on user's db on Neon.
quickest-silverOP•4mo ago
But do we need to self host or paid for Stack Auth cloud or not?
Stack Auth charges $49/mo for 50K users. Is that still needed to use the Neon Auth integration that stores user data on Neon instead of Stack Auth's own db?
conscious-sapphire•4mo ago
You don't need Stack Auth subscription and no self hosting.
quickest-silverOP•4mo ago
If we don't need to paid for Stack Auth or self host it and everything is managed by Neon Auth then that's a really good offer and I might consider just using it instead of Clerk.
Are there any migration guides to switch from Supabase (with Supabase Auth and RLS policies) to Neon + Neon Auth?
conscious-sapphire•4mo ago
The stack auth project will be managed by Neon.
quickest-silverOP•4mo ago
Is Neon Auth already being used on production sites? Any ETA regarding GA?
conscious-sapphire•4mo ago
https://neon.com/blog/supabase-auth-neon-auth
This doc should help migrate from Supabase.
Neon
A Simple 3-Step Process to Migrate from Supabase Auth to Neon Auth ...
If you’re in the process of moving from Supabase to Neon, here’s how you can also migrate your Auth in three simple steps.
quickest-silverOP•4mo ago
Awesome, thank you @shriidhar !
conscious-sapphire•4mo ago
We are working on making it easier to go production with Neon Auth. The GA should be in coming months.
However there should be some users in production using Stack Auth + Neon Auth. Meaning they pay stack auth subscriptions.
quickest-silverOP•4mo ago
I thought you just said a Stack Auth subscription wasn't needed to use Neon Auth. Or did you mean that's planned but not available yet?
Is there a commitment from Neon to not charge for Neon Auth by either total or monthly active users and just keep charging for resource usage as you're doing now?
conscious-sapphire•4mo ago
As of today, to go production with Neon Auth, you need to eject stack auth integration. To configure - SSO provider, SSO client keys, and emails. Once you eject you manage your stack auth subscription - free or paid when you grow.
In coming months that should change, you can configure everything from Neon Console and you don't need another subscription.
Yes will only be charged for storage.
environmental-rose•3w ago
re: "In coming months that should change, you can configure everything from Neon Console and you don't need another subscription."
Hi @shriidhar , is this part of the roadmap? Is there an ETA that you can share with us or is this something not of a high priority as of the moment?
TIA
conscious-sapphire•3w ago
The SSO and email provider can be changed in Neon Auth’s configuration tab.
Are you missing any specific configuration here?
environmental-rose•3w ago
custom email templates, enabling team creation client side, etc
conscious-sapphire•3w ago
Email templates and team configuration are on the roadmap. I can’t comment on ETA yet.
environmental-rose•3w ago
understood. thanks @shriidhar !