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I just this one issue with this for now…
Maybe I’m sleepy so I might have made a mistake too
I don’t think I have though
@hardcoreisdead 3 kaise aa raha hai iska tumhara?
I guess it does but I feel like there’s some issue with this
Why am I getting 1 mole less than you in each case?
Either I’m deranged or there’s something wrong with this whole thing 😭
Bhai mujhe anxiety de ke gayab ho jaata hai 😭
Ehhh ig meine key galat dekhli hogi while solving
I'll cross check again after class
There's no option that matches the actual answer though
Pehle vaale me 4
Doosre vaale me 2 thik hai
Teesre me 2
Fourth vaale me bhi 4
First ka 5 kaise
Yeah
did u check
the key does say B
i also did vicinal diol + hi rxn
example ⤴️
My working , sorry a bit messy
See this is something that I’ve concluded
(Some credits to GPT and stack exchange)
So the thing is….
There is a competition
Between substitution and elimination
And at vigorous conditions (higher temperatures), elimination product is favoured
So basically you could use this in each of those reactions
Kinda not in the condition to draw out the whole mechanism so as to how this works
All I can say is though, this shit won’t happen usually
We alright now? @hardcoreisdead
so the given answers correct?
In a way yes
I won’t say you would find that happening in lab conditions usually
But as JEE is….
These people don’t care about that
tbh not bothered
JEE is JEE
exactly
Fair enough
should i close?
So basically this could happen
few people had some doubts ig
@Sephrina @Augustine
You understood how this would work mechanistically though right?
It won’t be I2 ka direct elimination
Rather non classical carbocation se jayega
your mechanism is just speculation tho right?
The dihalide will not form
It isn’t
I’ve verified
There are evidences to back it up
The dihalide isn’t as unstable ki it would spontaneously break down like that
If the dihalide forms, then it stays
BUT…
the dihalide won’t form in the first place if the temperature is high
You getting me ya audio me explain Karun?
nah nah i get your point
Nice
Basically you use that analogy
Halonium cation Vaali
Halogenation of Alkenes
the thing is the way i do it is more rememberable
cuz sir ne class mein bhi aise hi karaya tha
I just told you the way it actually happens
but yeah dihalide will not form
so ill try to proceed through actual mechanism
‘cause Jo tumne ya rather tumhare sir ne kiya it’s not reasonable
Yeah nice then
‘cause sidha I2 nikaalna makes no sense at all
@Augustine @Sephrina
This is how that “extra mole” is being used
Ask if you still have any question on the DM or here if it’s not closed
will wait till midnight to close
For that claisen one…,
Give me some time pls 🙂
I’m as restless as you are to know about that
oh lol no worries
yup let me see
i was doing notes on dna
Koi ni this isn't as important either
But if you don't wanna memorise that reaction
na na ik concept smaj aa jayega ache se
And understand it logically
merko lagra hai mera alc utna acha nhi hua hai
ill do redo it
Yeah vo to hai
Ngl this thing
I bothered about this today only
As @hardcoreisdead said
I always used to skip this reaction 'cause it never made sense
i didnt evn skip
Aaj thoda open mind se samjha
and still 😭
i guess i mugged it and gave less time
Koi ni
after molecular ill redo
You'll get it
hopefully school ka kaam na aye
It's very logical
+solved @Varun_Arora the oc 🐐
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