inequalities

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YesArnavPie123
YesArnavPie123OP3mo ago
both
Opt
Opt3mo ago
For 23, the function x²/x-1 is minimum at 2, so that should do it Since p,q,r,s,t are independent
YesArnavPie123
YesArnavPie123OP3mo ago
how did u get that?
Opt
Opt3mo ago
Oh wait you're in class 9 or below
SchrodingerBilla
in first ques apply AM GM
YesArnavPie123
YesArnavPie123OP3mo ago
yeah
SchrodingerBilla
what???
YesArnavPie123
YesArnavPie123OP3mo ago
but am gm on a^2, b^2, c^2 will give a sol but that wont satisfy a + b + c = 0 tried it any other way of applying?
Opt
Opt3mo ago
(x+1)+(1/x-1) works for x²/x-1 I think Yeah $$x+1+\frac{1}{x-1}$$
TeXit
TeXit3mo ago
Opt
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YesArnavPie123
YesArnavPie123OP3mo ago
oh got it
Opt
Opt3mo ago
Now AM-GM
YesArnavPie123
YesArnavPie123OP3mo ago
this is greater than eq 2 for all x ok
Opt
Opt3mo ago
4 no? Not 2
SchrodingerBilla
hmm
YesArnavPie123
YesArnavPie123OP3mo ago
right mb
Opt
Opt3mo ago
$$2+(x-1)+\frac{1}{x-1}$$
TeXit
TeXit3mo ago
Opt
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YesArnavPie123
YesArnavPie123OP3mo ago
so the ans will be 20 for 23? and 22?
Opt
Opt3mo ago
Trying, wait
YesArnavPie123
YesArnavPie123OP3mo ago
thx
Opt
Opt3mo ago
Do you have the answer key? I'm getting 26 but idk I didn't use the a+b+c=0 condition for it
Monishrules
Monishrules3mo ago
dont think you can do that
SchrodingerBilla
yeah
Monishrules
Monishrules3mo ago
is anyone here
Opt
Opt3mo ago
Oh wait I got something I think
coolguy.
coolguy.3mo ago
22. You'll get (ab +bc+ca)=-1/2, then you can use am-gm If I'm not wrong
SirLancelotDuLac
AM-GM works only on positive numbers though no?
coolguy.
coolguy.3mo ago
Yeahh rightt I was thinking only how could it be this easy
SirLancelotDuLac
Nah the idea is right. Square the equation to get a^2b^2+b^2c^2+c^2a^2=1/4 and then apply am-gm Since a^2, b^2 and c^2 are positive. If not zero.
coolguy.
coolguy.3mo ago
We could directly apply it then using a^2 + b^2 + c^2 = 1, why give a+b+c=0
Monishrules
Monishrules3mo ago
guys it restricts the possibilities @coolguy. check for equality
coolguy.
coolguy.3mo ago
Hmm what equality Okay I get this i didn't read it properly you squared it again Kewl this too shd directly give the result upon applying am gm
SirLancelotDuLac
Again as Monushrules said, ut restricts the possibility. I think you get 2 inequalities and the one by a²+b²+c² is broader than required
coolguy.
coolguy.3mo ago
Rightt makes sense We need to narrow it down Kewl Got your point now brdr Thank you brdr fr explanation 😭
Monishrules
Monishrules3mo ago
@YesArnavPie123 Bhai jyada phaal gaye isme Just let c be negative since one of them has to be negative We can assume the other two are positive since if you negate all the variables it would still be a solution Then you can write -c=(a+b)=d Now the conditions become A^2+b²+ab=1/2, a²b²(a+b)²>=? Expand (a+b)² and substitute the value,also you can use amgm to get ab is less than or equal to 1/6 Than subsitute
YesArnavPie123
YesArnavPie123OP3mo ago
idk pretty sure we cant use am gm as min value will lead to a^2 = b^2 = c^2 so |a| = |b| = |c| but then u have to use the fact a + b + c = 0
dani >>>>>>
dani >>>>>>3mo ago
$$x+1+\frac{1}{x-1}$$
TeXit
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