force on dielectric

one way is energy conservation which gives the ans in the book ( i checked). but why cant i do force on dielectric with battery disconnected = mg
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CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP3mo ago
why doesnt force balancing in eqbm work
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP3mo ago
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Real potato
Real potato3mo ago
Electric force kya likha hai im unable to understand
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP3mo ago
force on dielectric with x length in capacitor when battery is disconnected put x=h
Real potato
Real potato3mo ago
I cant see properly apne kya likha hai but it should be (k-1)Ebv^2/2d E is epsilon
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP3mo ago
v is involved when the capacitor in which dielectric is inserted is also connected to a battery Here the capacitor was charged first , then disconnected from battery and then dielectric was inserted There are two cases of force on dielectric right ?
Real potato
Real potato3mo ago
There are two cases but the value of force is constant the only diffrence is when cell is connected ut provides the energy to pull the dielectric inside and when the cell is not connected it pulls the dielectric inside using its own energy Thats why potential energy decreases in this case
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP3mo ago
the value of force is different in both cases @Opt inputs?
Opt
Opt3mo ago
Once I get home, if I have braincells left Ok, I don't even understand why the liquid is rising.
SirLancelotDuLac
What does length mean here? The perimeter or the side of what I'm assuming to be a square?
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP3mo ago
length is height of plate width of plate is not given
SirLancelotDuLac
Is the answer $\frac{\epsilon_{0}.K^{2}V^{2}}{2d^{2}\rho.g}$?
TeXit
TeXit3mo ago
SirLancelotDuLac
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CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP3mo ago
nahh
SirLancelotDuLac
Lol I should just quit atp.
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP3mo ago
nah uve been out of touch
SirLancelotDuLac
That's just excuses my man. I'm weak at phy. ;_;
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP3mo ago
sure man (still asked craziest doubts)
Real potato
Real potato3mo ago
Is it?
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP3mo ago
Battery connected to capacitor
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CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP3mo ago
Battery disconnected
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SirLancelotDuLac
Oh right I missed this. One very obvious way to see my answer was wrong was setting k=1. 🤦‍♂️
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP3mo ago
what type of file is this bruh
Slembash
Slembash3mo ago
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Slembash
Slembash3mo ago
consider me new 🙂
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP3mo ago
oh yeah ive done this problem anyone ???
Prasan
Prasan3mo ago
Let me see
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffinOP3mo ago
seen?
Imine
Imine3mo ago
maybe he's got slow internet
Prasan
Prasan3mo ago
Hua nahi tha😭

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