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@Dexter
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kitne pi electrons hain C me?
Ha chlo vo ek reason ho skta
But its allylic too
@Enamine
allylic is basically just conjugation effects
allylic is not some special separate effect, its just a position for the carbocation to be on
resonance and aromaticity logic apply karega
Anti Aromaticity decreases the stability as a whole
Molecular Orbital vaali explanation would make more sense
But abhi nahi bata sakta vo
Ek baar saare options ka reaso de skte ho?
So for now think as if anti Aromaticity is the most destabilising effect
A is benzylic
B is tertiary
D is allylic from 2 sides
And NOT Anti Aromatic
Oh so that forms stable carbocation?
Yeah exactly
Cyclic me molecular orbitals are formed in a way ki anti bonding me chale jaate hain electrons
Oh
When 4pi electrons are there
So that decreases the stability
I of course can't explain that fully to you yet
Antibonding?
You haven't studied molecular orbital theory to that level yet
Is carbocation ka jab tum molecular orbital diagram banayoge
To you'll find ki antibonding me hai valence electrons
Which is very destabilising
Acha acha
Not that you need to understand that now though
Abhi ke liye ye yaad rakho
Anti Aromaticity decreases stability more than anything
It's not desirable
Non Aromaticity chal jaati hai ek baar ko
Anti nahi chalti
Nahi goc mei krvaya tha mera dhyan allylic par tha pehle
Ek aur doubt ha

ye to advancd ka question hai
dmso is dimethyl sulphoxide
basically ik polar protic in nai
to sn2
ans d hai kya?
@Enamine sir sahi kiya kya maine
varna jati dubara revision karne
Sahi hai sahi hai
And again......
Sir mat bolo yaar 😭🙏
sowry ji
Vaise answer should be B I feel like ruko
benzylic hai to stable kon jyda hoga?
mereko ye benzyl aur cyclo me bahut confusin hai
Benzylic or Allylic pe SN1 or SN2 dono acche se hote hain
Ye yaad rakho
Like primary ho agar tab
There's molecular orbital explanation to this too jo mai samjha nahi sakta 😭
But answer should be B
to benzyllic aur alkyl dono me konsa better hai?
Benzylic
B vala
hn? read karti isme
Don't
Jyada ho jayega trust me
hn tab vo benzyllic easier hoga
ohh
koi book suggest karo jo organic ke liye refer karu
zumdhal me ni hai acha
Abhi ke liye remember benzylic and allylic me best hote hain SN1 SN2
bruice aur clyaden bikhri hai
okk note kar leti
Dekho mai to Clayden dekhta tha
And master organic chemistry ki website
Nahi to stack exchange ke answers
theory ke liye
ye maine khola but
bahut bikhra hua tha
matlab aisa hai ki alag se padhna hoga isko time laga ke
I won't suggest that tbh
Isko padhna hai to topic search kar ke vahi padho khaali
Bohot vast book hai
There's a reason it's an undergraduate level text
Yar ekbar iss vale ka
Dubara batado
last ?
Isme B hona chahiye
Yes
yaha se dekho
B hi ha
Benzylic and Allylic are the best substrates for SN1 and SN2
dmso is polar protic solvent
Yaad rakho
Over anything
used insted of acetone
Okay
bas phir vahi normal NaI rxn ka prefernce
C mei partial double bo d to thodi dikkat ayegi?
Partial double bond ho agar C or Br me tab nahi hogi reaction
Br leave nahi kar payega
Mtlb mera reason theek ha?
lg wade
its beginner friendly unlike clayden and peter sykes
ye to naam pehli vaar suna
+solved @Enamine
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