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+solved @user1 @user2... to close the thread when your doubt is solved. Mention the users who helped you solve the doubt. This will be added to their stats.Alpha halo ketone
It's an excellent substrate for an SN2 reaction
(Molecular orbital reasoning)
I'll still send a link though ruko
isnt there a simple reasoning
i was asking if this shows neighbouring group participation
kab lekin?
Uhhh bhool gaya tha š
yar mechanism bhejdo iski
(dost ka birthday hai; was busy planning that)
Mechanism is SN2
Simple vaali
nahi mtlb kese hogi
acha simple
Jaise SN2 hoti hai yes
and ye?
Nope neighbouring group participation molecular orbitals ka bol sakte ho
But what you are asking
SN (NGP)
Vo nahi hoga
reason ha koi?
Molecular orbitals as I said
abe yar
Symmetry acchi hoti hai and stuff
Sorry yaar isme sahi me koi reason nahi hai š
Ye yaad karwate hain literally
Ki SN2 ke liye best substrate hai
Alpha halo carbonyl
vese Sn2 hoga kyun
Are Br leaving group hai accha
Koi stronger nucleophile aaya
To hoga na SN2
agar vo double bond O hata dein
aur dono structure mei comparison krvana ki which one shows Sn2 faste
r
then what we will do?
Tab double bond O ke saath faster hoga
Yes
why
so
Vahi to bola na š
Molecular orbital vala explanation hai
Which is very out of the scope
Still I'm searching for it
Agar koi accha link mile to
yar kuch to reason hona chahiye vese isiliye hmareko quesn aa rkha ha
thanks yar
Nahi hai genuinely bata raha hun
Even your teacher wouldn't give you one
'cause it's not needed
MOT ke bina
mereko to NGP bata dia tha reason
ab smjh nahi araha vobhi
Koi explanation nahi hai iska
NGP kya hota hai tumhare hisab se batayo?
Hota kya hai NGP?
jab internal atom koi help kare substitution mein
neighbour heteroatom
Haan to vo khud attach home
Hoke*
Leaving group ko nikaal deta hai
Yahi hai na NGP?
yes yes exactly
To yahan vo karne ke liye koi group hai?
Koi oxygen jo attach ho sake
Koi nitrogen
oxygen ha to but double bond ke saath ha, to nahi hoskta
Hmm exactly
Matlab NGP nahi hai
C=O ke antibonding orbitals are helping
hmm chlo theek ha
To decrease the energy level of antibonding orbitals of the C-Br bond
So that nucleophile can attack easily
If you want to read up to article dhoondh raha hun mai
Although not really needed
nahi nahi itna deep mein nahi jana
thanks tho
Still close mat karna
alright
@Sephrina maang Rahi thi
Tum bhi dekh lena agar lage to
vo mera dusra doubt krdo solve haloalkanes vala
Dekhta hun ruko
kya?
mere dost kyu nhi karte
oh wait hai hi nhi :uhh:
:psyduck:
Abeeyy yaar š
just the facts
Batchmate hai karna padta hai
damn
oh same batch se ho ?
mere batch mate hi hai lagta khrb
Like one of the people I talk to
oh mb
doubt pe focus krte hain
Batch to 250 ka hai sabse thodi baat hoti hai
Yeah doosri thread me chalo
bhai itne
1tank me itna mol pani bhi nhi aa paaye ik batch me itna baache
hmare to 20 ha mst batch
Bhai Mai college ke batch ki baat kar raha hun š
pta hai
chlo padhai karo
Okay šš
(nahi ho rahi)
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Koi article nahi mil paaya
Jisme bina typical MOT ke explanation ho
This is a "kind of hand wavy" explanation
Jisse kaam chal sakta hai abhi ke liye
If you guys want
Apt explanation ke liye MOT chahiye
koina dekh lete hain
how idd the bday go?
coachings are random. that is the real reason ye question rakha hai :)
none of this will ever come in exam :)
please close out doubts when they are sorted and give credit to the persons who helped you solve it :)
It was cool lol
You must know how boys' hostel birthdays are
Just some people beating the shit out of the guy jiska birthday ho and cutting a cake and going back to sleep š
+solved @Enamine
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