What can you do to speed up resource

I am searching for a solution. When editing a resource (just some text fields, checkboxes and a builder) it feels way slower to change fields then it feels like to be. Sometime the 'update' call in the network tab can take longer than 16 seconds.

How to make filament feel more snappy?

(No debugbar and other first google hits are present)

WWesleyh I am searching for a solution. When editing a resource (just some text fields, c...

Thijmen•7/2/25, 12:25 AM

Sounds like you got a problem that isnt Filament. I have enormous forms that save pretty fast.

WesleyhOP•7/2/25, 1:23 AM

So what could be the problem? I have it in production as well in dev

Dan Harrin•7/2/25, 6:32 AM

Using debugbar, check the timeline to see the “booting” ms vs request ms, and also how long the db queries take

Dan Harrin•7/2/25, 6:32 AM

also are you on windows?

WesleyhOP•7/2/25, 11:56 AM

I am on mac using herd, production is linux. (laravel 12)

Opening the /pages/1/edit:

Booting 39.11ms
Application 11.22s (s not ms)

Request duration 80.47ms

Peak Memory 10MB

The database queries took 2.08ms

When adding a 'row' to a builder element.
Request to /livewire/update

Booting 35.67ms
Application 14.3s (s not ms!)
273x vies 0

Peak memory 26MB

Database queries 1.99ms

Where should I look to get application quicker.

WWesleyh I am on mac using herd, production is linux. (laravel 12) Opening the /pages/1/...

Dan Harrin•7/2/25, 3:41 PM

absolutely no clue, those numbers are crazy

Dan Harrin•7/2/25, 3:41 PM

something is obviously seriously wrong but i dont think its filament

Dan Harrin•7/2/25, 3:41 PM

ive never seen numbers that high

Dan Harrin•7/2/25, 3:42 PM

when people complain about slowness it may be 1s, not 15s

WesleyhOP•7/2/25, 4:15 PM

I can handle 3 seconds or so but yeah one textbox 15 seconds is kinda killing

WesleyhOP•7/2/25, 4:17 PM

But if not filament what else? Frontend is inertia and Vue, no issues there at all.

Maybe it's a reactive thing that's messing with the builder?

Relationships maybe?

WWesleyh But if not filament what else? Frontend is inertia and Vue, no issues there at a...

Dan Harrin•7/2/25, 5:34 PM

can you remove each feature from the form one by one and work out which one is causing the problem?

Dan Harrin•7/2/25, 5:34 PM

i feel like it cant be an issue with it getting slower progressively

WesleyhOP•7/2/25, 5:47 PM

I will report back to you soon! I will get to the bottom of this.

WesleyhOP•7/2/25, 5:47 PM

Thanks

Dennis Koch•7/2/25, 8:59 PM

OPCache is enabled? Did you run php filament:optimizephp filament:optimize (if that’s the right command

)

WesleyhOP•7/4/25, 8:31 AM

Caching didn't do much.

I feel like it's a compounding effect actually, each row added with different content just adds to the total views that needs to be rendered is my conclusion of the profiling. So I feel like it re-renders all the time with each update I do. So each row or content adds about 1.3 seconds.

Maybe what I do is too complex and I have to find a workaround.

toeknee•7/4/25, 8:51 AM

Can you provide the form? have you ensure closures are used when using DB Queries etc for selects / options?

toeknee•7/4/25, 8:52 AM

Do you have debug bar enabled by any chance? If so, disable view collection since that massively slows it down as per the docs.

WesleyhOP•7/4/25, 9:06 AM

Resources.zip24.05KB

WWesleyh Caching didn't do much. I feel like it's a compounding effect actually, each ro...

Dan Harrin•7/4/25, 9:16 AM

how about using the builder "preview" feature, so the form doesnt render upfront

Dan Harrin•7/4/25, 9:16 AM

each block has a preview view, and is editable in a modal

Dan Harrin•7/4/25, 9:17 AM

1 second still sounds super slow for a block though, i wouldnt expect that to be more than 50ms

WesleyhOP•7/4/25, 10:59 AM

I think this is the way to go!
The rendering time is a bit deferred and split up but UX is way better.

On a bigger page (like 8 rows) each row takes still about 2 to 4 seconds to load.

Maybe I still did something wierd, but at least there is a workable workaround.

toeknee•7/4/25, 11:00 AM

2-4 seconds is insane per row

toeknee•7/4/25, 11:02 AM

fyi live() replaces reactive()

toeknee•7/4/25, 11:03 AM

Can you also try loading your blocks into an array on mount of the page and then calling the blocks with $this->blocks. To save loading all the files each time on a refresh.

Dan Harrin•7/4/25, 11:06 AM

@Wesleyh can you create a full reproduction repository that I can install and test out the performance of on my machine?

Dan Harrin•7/4/25, 11:07 AM

or if your real project is easy to install, you can share it with me privately on github

Dan Harrin•7/4/25, 11:07 AM

i at least want to see this insane performance for myself, I feel like something must be seriously up lol

WesleyhOP•7/4/25, 11:08 AM

Send me a DM with your github I think that is the easiest

WWesleyh Send me a DM with your github I think that is the easiest

Dan Harrin•7/4/25, 11:08 AM

my username is danharrin

WesleyhOP•7/4/25, 11:14 AM

I invited you to the private repo, make sure to be on the "Rebrand" branch.

Please forgive me the WIP in general and now of the preview blade components.

System wise:
MacOS, 128GB, Herd, Yarn as package manager

WWesleyh I invited you to the private repo, make sure to be on the "Rebrand" branch. Ple...

Dan Harrin•7/4/25, 11:15 AM

ok so how many blocks are you using on this page?

Dan Harrin•7/4/25, 11:16 AM

feels pretty snappy to me

WesleyhOP•7/4/25, 11:16 AM

You should switch to the Rebrand branch

Dan Harrin•7/4/25, 11:18 AM

and what should i do?

Dan Harrin•7/4/25, 11:19 AM

WesleyhOP•7/4/25, 11:19 AM

Dan Harrin•7/4/25, 11:20 AM

Dan Harrin•7/4/25, 11:21 AM

think its some php or server set up thing, or something on your machine

Dan Harrin•7/4/25, 11:21 AM

none of this feels slow

Dan Harrin•7/4/25, 11:22 AM

i am using macos & valet, but i think herd runs on valet anyway

WesleyhOP•7/4/25, 11:22 AM

No it feels insanely fast I never had it this fast for any filament project.

Dan Harrin•7/4/25, 11:22 AM

are you sure you have opcache enabled?

Dan Harrin•7/4/25, 11:22 AM

in php.ini

WesleyhOP•7/4/25, 11:23 AM

Im going to check!

Dan Harrin•7/4/25, 11:23 AM

make sure to restart php if you enable that

WesleyhOP•7/4/25, 11:35 AM

I have checked, opcache was already on, opcache_cli was turned off now turned it on, as well as restarted the whole machine to be sure.

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