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iTeachChem
iTeachChem2mo ago
Please share an attempt
Zoro from temu
Zoro from temuOP2mo ago
during ascend i assumed initial velocity = u, and at the top final vel = 0, then for decent initial vel = 0 and i assumed final vel = v, used v²=u²+2as equation for both, now we don't know what v and u are (for ascent/descent), which i found using work energy theorem for both ascent and descent separately
iTeachChem
iTeachChem2mo ago
WE theorem did not follow where it is being used do you have an fbd? acceleration will be different mainly, going up and going down
Zoro from temu
Zoro from temuOP2mo ago
yes let me make again im sending
iTeachChem
iTeachChem2mo ago
while going up grav and friction are in the same direction while going down, grav and friction are opposite. distance is the same 3 eqns, 3 variables :) solve (a up, a down, mu)
Zoro from temu
Zoro from temuOP2mo ago
that's the thing, in solution during ascent friction is acting upwards and mgsinθ downwards idk why why is friction up
iTeachChem
iTeachChem2mo ago
lol how bro. anyway its not up or down, but along the direction of the plane
Zoro from temu
Zoro from temuOP2mo ago
not the first time this happened, i think jee mains questions are uk...
iTeachChem
iTeachChem2mo ago
ie gsintheta
Zoro from temu
Zoro from temuOP2mo ago
not properly made
iTeachChem
iTeachChem2mo ago
and due to normal force =mu gcostheta
Zoro from temu
Zoro from temuOP2mo ago
gsinθ is alright
iTeachChem
iTeachChem2mo ago
so they will be additive na cos both are down the plane whaqt is the answer? if it is 3 then what we are discussing works
Zoro from temu
Zoro from temuOP2mo ago
friction should be down the plane bcuz friction prevents relative motion, but in solution it's given its acting up the plane thats the issue yes 3
iTeachChem
iTeachChem2mo ago
then solution is made by a noob how did he get 3 :S
Zoro from temu
Zoro from temuOP2mo ago
no clue lol
iTeachChem
iTeachChem2mo ago
lets simplify this, direc of acceleration is same while going up (ie downwards) while going down, this acceleration magnitude is smaller since friction is upwards that is all ;D
Zoro from temu
Zoro from temuOP2mo ago
alright I'll give it another try and see
iTeachChem
iTeachChem2mo ago
and since s = 1/2 at2 you are sorted a up = 4 a down rest is trig tan theta value etc i know this is a really badly written solution :P but hope you followed the logic
Zoro from temu
Zoro from temuOP2mo ago
ohkk i get it now yes that's correct thanks +solved @iTeachChem
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