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solved it by f = (whatever), but getting wrong ans by doing μN to find ans directly
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Zoro from temu
Zoro from temuOP2mo ago
120N ans
coolguy.
coolguy.2mo ago
You can consider a+b as one block write f = mg Cause the blocks won't slip amongst themselves You could also think that since 120N acting on system is downward and they are at rest, hence 120N is applied by wall Since that is the only external upward force
Sephrina
Sephrina2mo ago
fbd apne kya banaya vo bhejo force jo hum de rhe vo hoga right side contact force hoga left gravi hoga down frictional hoga up mai iska solve kar rhi bhejti
Zoro from temu
Zoro from temuOP2mo ago
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Zoro from temu
Zoro from temuOP2mo ago
wo agya smj mujhe μN krke nikalna hai ans
Sephrina
Sephrina2mo ago
ok dekho mai ik alag tarike se explain karungi isko kyunki mujhe ik chiz realise hui just dekho yaha humko diya nhi hai but we assume ki blocks stationary honge and wont fall aur jo bhi contact forces hai that will cancel out the applied force aur jo hamara frictional force hai that will work against gravity kyunki dono ki direction opposite hai using that totsl gravi wala inka aara 120N right kyunki 20n from block a and 100 from block b jisko frictional force oppose kar rha to us se hamara fricitonal force aa jayega 120N got it? f = g(a) + g(b) f = 20+100 f=120
Zoro from temu
Zoro from temuOP2mo ago
alright, but im getting wrong answer when i find friction by wall using μN doing this got the correct ans
Sephrina
Sephrina2mo ago
that i also tried merko bhi nhi ban rha mai kuch der me phirse fresh try karti
Zoro from temu
Zoro from temuOP2mo ago
poorly framed mains question? 2015 ka hai
Sephrina
Sephrina2mo ago
shyd tak kuch chiz jo miss ho rha hit ho jaaye could be yeah
Zoro from temu
Zoro from temuOP2mo ago
i wanna bomb nta faltu ka tension krwate hai
coolguy.
coolguy.2mo ago
I'll write and send in sm time, don't have pen paper rn
Sephrina
Sephrina2mo ago
meu is different
Zoro from temu
Zoro from temuOP2mo ago
wo problem nhi hai, wall ka u=0.15, so friction by wall uN = 0.15N hoga, ye N thik nhi nikal rha
Sephrina
Sephrina2mo ago
let me make that fbd wait
coolguy.
coolguy.2mo ago
I forgot about this completely mb, anyways here you go @Zoro from temu
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coolguy.
coolguy.2mo ago
If fa is upward on block A, it is downward on block B from Newton's second law, I hope tht is understood Also there is a disclaimer Technically this is the minimum normal force we are calculating using boundary conditions Irl the normal force maybe be infinity also but frictional force is 120N It will make no sense that friction makes the block move up cause mu* infinity = infinity Lol That's why it's not advisable to introduce normal force here I hope I made sense
Zoro from temu
Zoro from temuOP2mo ago
alright now i got it thanks +solved @coolguy.
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