Matrices Determinants clash

here if i open the matrices and all i get 2 solutions but the detereminant of P is 0 so shouldnt it be infinite solutions???
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iteachchemhelperv2
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iteachchemhelperv2
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flower
flowerOP2mo ago
@Opt need i quickhelp ;-;
Opt
Opt2mo ago
Basis of null space of P. Wah First check detP They're basically asking no.of solutions to three homogeneous linear equations detP = 0 implies infinite. detP ≠ 0 means no solutions.
flower
flowerOP2mo ago
yes but detP = 0 but also theres only 2 solutions so whats going on here i solved it all
Opt
Opt2mo ago
Forget the x²+y²+z² thing because you can scale down by some factor to get unit vectors
flower
flowerOP2mo ago
just this smol thingy popped up aayein
SirLancelotDuLac
If the solutions for the linear equation turn out to be a plane or a line, this condition forces to reduce solutions. Like the sphere of the above may cause solutions to be zero or 1 or smth
Opt
Opt2mo ago
I see Check rank of P then That'll help
flower
flowerOP2mo ago
wait why does that happen in the solution manual this is only what theyve done they frst said its infinite and then took lamda or smthing then said only 2 ab ye kya hai
SirLancelotDuLac
But we gotta provide a "jee-ish" solution here 😭
flower
flowerOP2mo ago
guys please this is mains level question no need to apply Grad math here
Opt
Opt2mo ago
I'm in LA mode
flower
flowerOP2mo ago
infact its a Mains PYQ please have mercy on me
flower
flowerOP2mo ago
what what does that even mean
SirLancelotDuLac
I was just trying to highlight the x^2+y^2+z^2=1 thingy is in fact, very important to the question.
flower
flowerOP2mo ago
yes it is usse answer to aaya but like
SirLancelotDuLac
Wait Imma be back in a few...
flower
flowerOP2mo ago
if detP = 0 then there should be infinte solutions of x y z but theres infact only 2 how come so it makes no sense its not like 2 of them are factors of each other either (x+y=0 and 2x+2y=0 wala i mean this is not there either)
SirLancelotDuLac
Okay...are you familiar with 3-d graphs? Like have you played around in desmos 3d or smth?
flower
flowerOP2mo ago
nopes not introduced to 3D distance formula wagera aata hai 11th ke sir ne kaha tha vectors 3D 12th me ek saath karwaenge
SirLancelotDuLac
Achcha but you know a linear equation in 2 variables gives a line when plotted right?
flower
flowerOP2mo ago
yea
SirLancelotDuLac
And what is analogous with a line in 3d?
flower
flowerOP2mo ago
ik that 2 planes ka intersection can give point or line
SirLancelotDuLac
A plane So basically a linear equation in 3 when plotted gives a plane
flower
flowerOP2mo ago
and thats a question as well how come if we consider these 3 planes to be intersecting we have not infinite not 1 but instead 2 solutions??? feels illegal yea
SirLancelotDuLac
Jabh 2 planes are either superimposing, so the solution is a plane Or when all 3 intersect to give a line
flower
flowerOP2mo ago
that would be infinte as well na
SirLancelotDuLac
In both cases solution is infinite
flower
flowerOP2mo ago
haa
SirLancelotDuLac
But we are also given the condition x^2+y^2+z^2=1 Which seems like a circle So it is its analogue or a sphere
flower
flowerOP2mo ago
OHHH OHOHOOOOOO I SEE still how 2
SirLancelotDuLac
The solution (of linear eq.) must be coming out to a line and that line must be cutting the sphere two times na
flower
flowerOP2mo ago
OH I SEE I SEE iska 3D kaise bana sakta hu in desmos just for fun samajh gaya ye to
SirLancelotDuLac
Desmos 3d is a thing
flower
flowerOP2mo ago
bana sakta hu?
SirLancelotDuLac
Yep.
flower
flowerOP2mo ago
ok help me out a little here
SirLancelotDuLac
Go to www.desmos.com and choose 3d calculator. No embed perms here ig :/
Opt
Opt2mo ago
desmos.com/3d
flower
flowerOP2mo ago
OH OKOK can i have the uhhhhh 3 planes show their solution line my PC is cooked bro it cant run this shi
SirLancelotDuLac
It can't isolate the line but you can adjust your view so as to look at them intersect at a line (Also I was gonna warn about the ram usage but...experimental learning is the best lmao)
flower
flowerOP2mo ago
areyyy okok damn fr ok yall thanks +solved @SirLancelotDuLac
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