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@Dexter
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1,2,4,5,7,9 have lone pair
So, can participate in resonance
ah okay
yeah i just wanted to confirm
thanks a bunch
we only look at the atom directly attached na.. like even if there's a withdrawing grp after it we wont look at it like nhcoch3
Yeah
It's like cross conjugation
It will still show +M effect although uska intensity kam ho jayega kyuki like in this case Nhcoch3 nitrogen ka lone pair resonance krne lgega Carbon ke oxygen k sath
right, got it.. and +M bw OH and OCH3 how do i compare
OCH3 mei CH3 ka +I lagega to oxygen ki electron density badh jaegi to vo zyada +M show karega as compared to OH
Ahmm actually this is wrong
OCH3 has a larger bond angles
Because of steric repulsion of the CH3 by the rest of the carbon chain
This increases %s character in the oxygen in the OCH3
Which increases its electronegativity (Bent's Rule)
Because of this, it doesn't donate as much as OH
Do you guys get this? @Prachi @ns @Real potato
yeah.. cuz i solved a problem where oh was considered to have more +m
thanks so much
also cl ka toh -i dominate karta hai na
Yep, forgot about the repulsion factor
Actually the problem is that alkyls are actually not +I groups
So I kinda refrain from using that in my explanation 🙂
(it's been proved recently)
#💁│general
yup i understood ur point about bents rule
..?
welp cant wait to have that added into NCERT 8 years from now :DD
yeah. like it shows both +M and -I but we consider -i