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iTeachChem•4w ago
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Electrochemistry

it all feels scattered cant figure out the framework
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flower
flowerOP•4w ago
ayo bot is down?? @iTeachChem Helper bruhhh @Moderator please ping chem
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/dev/null•4w ago
@Chemistry Quiz
Opt
Opt•4w ago
Arrey Wrong ping
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora•4w ago
Ahmm dexter
Opt
Opt•4w ago
It's Dexter
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora•4w ago
Dexter
trinny
trinny•4w ago
@Dexter
Opt
Opt•4w ago
Can't believe this is why I end up coming back to doubts section
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora•4w ago
Damn they mixed photoelectric effect and electrochemistry Feisty Idea should be E nikaalo Ratio lo This would contain the pH term You know the other side of the ratio as the work function I'll do the math...... Although I don't want to buy I guess I'll do it @SirLancelotDuLac aa jaayo pls if free 😭 Verify kar dena math
flower
flowerOP•4w ago
lol ye work function kuch suna suna lag raha hai kya hota hai
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora•4w ago
Energy required to take out an electron ji Out of a metal
flower
flowerOP•4w ago
oh achcha
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora•4w ago
Kinda ionisation energy hi hai tbh But yahan single atom nahi hai Collisions bhi honge Baaki atoms se So better term Work Function
flower
flowerOP•4w ago
:shocked:
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora•4w ago
So you just equate that their ratio to the ratio of E I guess you should get it 'cause E itself is voltage too right? Vo oppose karegi photoelectric current ko Somehow Ek second I feel like there's a gap here I'll come back in a moment It's fine alright This would work out the same Bas ek difference to note You are not actually taking the ratio of work functions It's the stopping potential Bas kyunki that "e" that you divide by Vo cancel out ho jayega
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•4w ago
Chemistry detected, question rejected šŸ„€šŸ’”
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora•4w ago
It's maths saar šŸ™‚ Number Theory samajh ke kar lo saar šŸ˜­šŸ™
flower
flowerOP•4w ago
thats such a me thing to say
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora•4w ago
I guess the most excited person about this question is not even the guy who asked šŸ™‚
flower
flowerOP•4w ago
idk chem just doesnt hit the same
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•4w ago
First find the wavelength from the fact that E_0-0.06/n pH=h(frequency)-w_0
flower
flowerOP•4w ago
ye kya hai
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•4w ago
Uske Baad do rhe same thing, this time pH being the variable.
flower
flowerOP•4w ago
wait
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•4w ago
Solution na, I think.
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora•4w ago
That's not required imk imo 'cause do cases given hain A ratio can be taken from values from both cases And equated to the ratio of stopping potentials Which is the ratio of work function basically Denominator me ek term variable aayega Log vala That's the pH term
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•4w ago
Ooh right fair point....
Sephrina
Sephrina•4w ago
how do you do this wth
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora•4w ago
Atomic plus electro ki mind games
Sephrina
Sephrina•4w ago
yeah i will revisit this at night if you guys solve do ping me
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora•4w ago
Vaise maine idea likh diya hai upar You can revisit this once you're done
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•4w ago
E_0-0.06/n pH + (initial work function)=E_0-0.06/n pH(final)+(final work function)
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora•4w ago
Ping kar denge koi ni before marking solved
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•4w ago
E_0 cancels out so ye 0.06/n(delta pH)=delta(work function)
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora•4w ago
How'd you get this? Ratio nahi hona chahiye kya?
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•4w ago
From the above thingy, I'll have to see how to take ratio, 'cuz I can't see how we would do it 😭
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora•4w ago
I think the net E with the initial pH divided by the net E with the final pH Equals work function initial divided by work function final
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•4w ago
But work function ka ratio ki jagah hv-work function ja ratio hona chahiye na?
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora•4w ago
Ahmm haaaan But ek second Fir provided energy ka component kahan se laayein
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•4w ago
If I'm understanding the question hum Na ko light se irradiate kar rahe hain and the potential difference battery se balance out ho rahi hai.
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora•4w ago
Hmm I guess
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•4w ago
And then similar setup for another metal
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora•4w ago
Hum ulta karke stop karna chah rate hain Current flow I guess I get this now okay I guess I get this now The provided energy In the form of voltage Should be the same in both cases
iTeachChem
iTeachChem•4w ago
lol
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora•4w ago
They must counteract each other
iTeachChem
iTeachChem•4w ago
isnt this direct?
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•4w ago
*The energy provided by light.
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora•4w ago
Hmm fair I mean kinda but framing thodi implicit hai I would say
flower
flowerOP•4w ago
hmmmmmm i see i see to karna kya hai exactly
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora•4w ago
@Phalawor
flower
flowerOP•4w ago
OH achcha made smol mistake hehe
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora•4w ago
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Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora•4w ago
proses
flower
flowerOP•4w ago
im messing up calculations this sucks noice thanks bro
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora•4w ago
What?😭 For a moment I thought you said this sucks lmao
flower
flowerOP•4w ago
me messing up calculation nahhh this is epik
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora•4w ago
I know it does fr
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/dev/null•4w ago
ahem ahem
flower
flowerOP•4w ago
someone else calculate this out ive gotten 3 diffrent answers for 3 diffrent attempts and none of them are correct 😭
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora•4w ago
calculator
flower
flowerOP•4w ago
I'm done with physical chemistry Where am I even going wrong bruh
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flower
flowerOP•4w ago
,rotate
TeXit
TeXit•4w ago
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iTeachChem
iTeachChem•4w ago
17
flower
flowerOP•4w ago
ans? its 142
iTeachChem
iTeachChem•4w ago
why is there a 2? LMAO
flower
flowerOP•4w ago
log [H]*[Cl] hoga na Nerst me conc of H and Cl would be same there H^2
iTeachChem
iTeachChem•4w ago
okay got 142 1.41 is the ph e0 is 0.22 that is correct ephoton is 2.64? 2.3 + 0.34 (0.34 is Ecell ?) this is for sodium for potassium, 2.64 - 2.25 aapke me 2.30 likha hai so lastly 0.39 = 0.22 - 0.06/2 log Q
flower
flowerOP•4w ago
Wouldn't that just be the work function? That's was a major question what would be the energy of the photon
iTeachChem
iTeachChem•4w ago
overall rxn is H2+ 2AgCl -> 2H+ + 2Cl- so from that you get Q (+2Ag :D) that is 2.3 no? work function of Na is 2.3 ex Vs = 0.34 which you get at pH = 1 same logic as you said H+ = Cl- ie Q = H+ ^ 4
flower
flowerOP•4w ago
What is this ye kya This is stopping potential Which is the Cell potential But how is it 0.34 By Nerst it should 0.22 -0.06 (Sorry if I'm completely wrong this is just me 17-18th question)
iTeachChem
iTeachChem•4w ago
First principles :) did this make sense?
flower
flowerOP•4w ago
oh haa right right ;-; sorry sorry yea couldnt figure it yups sorry for vanishing like that mum sent me to get pav bhaji there was practically no signal there
iTeachChem
iTeachChem•4w ago
na bro all good haha awesome good you got great food :D
flower
flowerOP•4w ago
frfr
iTeachChem
iTeachChem•4w ago
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