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iTeachChem5mo ago
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Isomerism-Resolution

Can someone explain to me what we actually mean by 'resolved' and I am facing issues in A and B so... please help me here as well
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Shhh
ShhhOP5mo ago
Oreyyy enamine sir
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora5mo ago
Resolution means being able to isolate the two isomeric forms
Shhh
ShhhOP5mo ago
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Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora5mo ago
🙂🙏 So
Real potato
Real potato5mo ago
prabhu agye ab yaha mera koi kaam ni samhalo aap
Shhh
ShhhOP5mo ago
Oh I thought it's just seeing in two different directions
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora5mo ago
Naah So A me kya hai It's just amine inversion or flipping So these can't be resolved
Shhh
ShhhOP5mo ago
Fein B m ho jayega C ka?
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora5mo ago
'cause this happens with a very high frequency B to mirror images hain Non Superimposable
Shhh
ShhhOP5mo ago
Achha Aisa ky I thought they both ain't enantiomers and bulky groups h toh flipping bhi nhin ho skta that we can say they both are same...i.e. leading to resolution
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora5mo ago
C me koi difference nahi hai
Shhh
ShhhOP5mo ago
Toh b hua n?
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora5mo ago
Vo enantiomers hai but not resolvable Yes hona chahiye C me dekho it's just the same molecule Viewed from another side D me bhi same scene hai
Shhh
ShhhOP5mo ago
Hmm
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora5mo ago
'cause the groups aren't different So B Ab mat bolna answer C ya D me se hai 😭🙏
Shhh
ShhhOP5mo ago
Ek sekand...not resolvable btaiye idhr kaise
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora5mo ago
Vo interconvert hote rahenge rapidly
Shhh
ShhhOP5mo ago
Nah nah multi correct h
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora5mo ago
Kyunki energy barrier bohot Kam hai
Shhh
ShhhOP5mo ago
Thik h Vo toh thik h Toh dono same hin huen n
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora5mo ago
Actually nahi Group swap kar lete hain places
Shhh
ShhhOP5mo ago
Shm type interconvert krenge fein fein like any umbrella flipping Tunneling effect
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora5mo ago
Waah quantum shit Idk that much
Shhh
ShhhOP5mo ago
Group swap kr leten h??
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora5mo ago
But basic bata sakta hun
Shhh
ShhhOP5mo ago
Btaiye btaiye
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora5mo ago
Changing one group changes the config right? R, S Aata hi hai tumhe trust me Or mujhe bhi neend aa rahi Sabah 8 baje class hai Jaana hoga bas abhi to
Shhh
ShhhOP5mo ago
Achhhaaa Mereko toh bs flip kr rha h toh kinda umbrella dono direction se like khul rha h...toh rs define Krna thik nhin lg rha Anyways good night kl hin bta dijiyega class k baad maybe
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora5mo ago
Good night
nori
nori5mo ago
what's the ans @Shhh ? is it b,c and d
Shhh
ShhhOP5mo ago
Yy .
nori
nori5mo ago
ah okay.. yeah cuz enantiomers are resolvable. meso are not but isnt the reason for 1 not being resolvable flipping? i didnt know that.. i thought it was due to optical inactivity due to amine inversion
Shhh
ShhhOP5mo ago
Amine inversion is a part of flipping effect=tunneling effect=umbrella effect🫠 Bhaiya agr morning hogya ho toh can u plz explain a ka reason🫠
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora5mo ago
Bataya to tha Dono forms bohot jaldi jaldi change karenge So you can't isolate each one of them That's why not resolvable
Shhh
ShhhOP5mo ago
Humein toh interchangable lg rhe bs...aap keh rhen ki change krke config hin change ho jayega
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora5mo ago
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Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora5mo ago
@Shhh Ye dekh lo Ab meri class chal rahi hai Jaata hun
Real potato
Real potato5mo ago
amine inversion:uhh:
Shhh
ShhhOP5mo ago
oh achha haan ye keh skten h ki individually resolvable nhin h...resolvable mtlb isolate nhin krskten h us form m h n?? @Enamine just answer it and we'll close it bhaiyaaaaa
Varun_Arora
Varun_Arora5mo ago
Resolvable ka matlab hi ye hota hai ki dono forms alag alag nikaal ke rakh sakte haib
Shhh
ShhhOP5mo ago
ok thanks +solved @Enamine
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