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iTeachChem•3w ago
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Flux thru tilted cone

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iTeachChem Helper
iTeachChem Helper•3w ago
@Gyro Gearloose
iTeachChem Helper
iTeachChem Helper•3w ago
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flower
flowerOP•3w ago
if im thinking correctly how do i calculate that smol area
SchrodingerBilla
SchrodingerBilla•3w ago
@Phalawor only circle se flux hoga net Na Wait Wait wait wait
flower
flowerOP•3w ago
think it thru i think wo blu wala region hi flux produce karega
SchrodingerBilla
SchrodingerBilla•3w ago
Hmm wahi karra Jaldbazi me lik diya tha
flower
flowerOP•3w ago
yeyeye mujhe bhi initially yahi laga then thought about it lol
SchrodingerBilla
SchrodingerBilla•3w ago
@Phalawor yehi hoga bas projected area ellipse aayega
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffin•3w ago
in the scenario of cone not tilted , is there electric field below the base
flower
flowerOP•3w ago
kya?? kyuu kya
SchrodingerBilla
SchrodingerBilla•3w ago
Yeahh It's just same as projected area of circle Try it practically if can't visualise
flower
flowerOP•3w ago
arey but what about the curved surface ellipse hoga ok i get it what about cone ka curve what about 0
SchrodingerBilla
SchrodingerBilla•3w ago
??
flower
flowerOP•3w ago
like uhm 0 fluc there no charge given could that be possible cuz if im imagining correct every line going into the left ka surfeace can make it ot the right wala surface (i dont have answer key)
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffin•3w ago
is it D? BRUH BRUH 😭 anyway
flower
flowerOP•3w ago
what did you think
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffin•3w ago
to make the situation easier to think instead of tilting the cone tilt the electric field
flower
flowerOP•3w ago
even if i tilt the electric field bro the projection is just too weird
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffin•3w ago
just an idea still working it through
flower
flowerOP•3w ago
also this?? no??
SchrodingerBilla
SchrodingerBilla•3w ago
@Phalawor trust me or try for one
flower
flowerOP•3w ago
kaise try karu
integralofe^2v
integralofe^2v•3w ago
use flux in closed shape is 0 in ext field so this js boils down to finding flux thru missing cicrcle (base of cone) so its D ig
SchrodingerBilla
SchrodingerBilla•3w ago
Yeah
flower
flowerOP•3w ago
bhai kya closed shape me did we already not consider the base ka circle?? that it has no flux to contribute
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffin•3w ago
??
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffin•3w ago
Shij hai..
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flower
flowerOP•3w ago
Ye nahi ho sakta kya?
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flower
flowerOP•3w ago
,rotate
integralofe^2v
integralofe^2v•3w ago
like this we ultimately want flux s1 and s2 only
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TeXit
TeXit•3w ago
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flower
flowerOP•3w ago
And the net flux becomes 0? OHHHH OHHHH SHIT BRO AREYYYYYY
integralofe^2v
integralofe^2v•3w ago
it isnt a closed shapee
flower
flowerOP•3w ago
Hahahaha okokkdhdidvfeejwz Arey why didn't I think of thai
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffin•3w ago
wait phi s1 + phi s2 nikaloge kaise
integralofe^2v
integralofe^2v•3w ago
we cant, thats why we find phi c
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffin•3w ago
han fir woh kaise aayega
integralofe^2v
integralofe^2v•3w ago
which s equsal to it
flower
flowerOP•3w ago
Waah bhai Itna fundamental tha phir bhi nahi hua It's simply the vertical projection
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffin•3w ago
vertical projection dA sin60 nahi aayeg
integralofe^2v
integralofe^2v•3w ago
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integralofe^2v
integralofe^2v•3w ago
it happens😭
flower
flowerOP•3w ago
oh ha wahi ohdhdsnaoi nahi 30 hai arey yaar hatt haa ye sahi hia
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffin•3w ago
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flower
flowerOP•3w ago
angle 30 hai naaa
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffin•3w ago
han.. ,rotate
TeXit
TeXit•3w ago
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integralofe^2v
integralofe^2v•3w ago
Acos60=Asin30
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffin•3w ago
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integralofe^2v
integralofe^2v•3w ago
we take hori comp
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffin•3w ago
oh shit mein vertical lene laga does this work ek sec vertical nahi lena chahiye
integralofe^2v
integralofe^2v•3w ago
E dot A Parallrel comp to field
flower
flowerOP•3w ago
what
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffin•3w ago
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flower
flowerOP•3w ago
parallel?? whyy
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffin•3w ago
Field goes through sin component
flower
flowerOP•3w ago
parallel me to
integralofe^2v
integralofe^2v•3w ago
w8 mb
flower
flowerOP•3w ago
0 flux hota na flux vector bahar ki taraf hoga not in
integralofe^2v
integralofe^2v•3w ago
nhi im right
flower
flowerOP•3w ago
flux doosri side hoga bro
integralofe^2v
integralofe^2v•3w ago
parallel so tht area vector perp to field
flower
flowerOP•3w ago
surface shape se
SchrodingerBilla
SchrodingerBilla•3w ago
@Phalawor E ke 2 components nikaal kaam khatam...
flower
flowerOP•3w ago
outgoing hota hai a aur A?
SchrodingerBilla
SchrodingerBilla•3w ago
A? Area?
flower
flowerOP•3w ago
nvm im being stupid
integralofe^2v
integralofe^2v•3w ago
area vector perp krna he
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CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffin•3w ago
area vector field ke perpendicular ho gya toh zero nahi ho jayega flux
flower
flowerOP•3w ago
but shape ke to outgoing hota hai na
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffin•3w ago
bro how is flux even passing through this surface
integralofe^2v
integralofe^2v•3w ago
...
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffin•3w ago
E.dA
flower
flowerOP•3w ago
closed surface ke outgoing hoga na area vector ye jo aapne bheja
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffin•3w ago
EdA cos90 = 0
flower
flowerOP•3w ago
into the shape ho gaya
Shhh
Shhh•3w ago
mention me as well agr nhin hua ye toh
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffin•3w ago
actually hes right cos(angle between E and dA vector) which is clearly 60 here
integralofe^2v
integralofe^2v•3w ago
mb
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flower
flowerOP•3w ago
AREA VECTOR HUMARE SHAPE SE TO OUTGOING HOTA THA NA SHAPE KE ANDAR THODI JAEGA
SchrodingerBilla
SchrodingerBilla•3w ago
@Phalawor
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SchrodingerBilla
SchrodingerBilla•3w ago
Kisne kaha Area vector manna mere haath me hai
integralofe^2v
integralofe^2v•3w ago
out hi to he😭 see arrow
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CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffin•3w ago
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flower
flowerOP•3w ago
oh sorry
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffin•3w ago
@integralofe^2v i still dk if my method of tilting the field is correct
flower
flowerOP•3w ago
im sleepy ig sorry
integralofe^2v
integralofe^2v•3w ago
ill look later wait
SchrodingerBilla
SchrodingerBilla•3w ago
Like how
CorrodedCoffin
CorrodedCoffin•3w ago
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Shhh
Shhh•3w ago
bharry dangaras unable to be interpreted
flower
flowerOP•3w ago
got it guys tanks +solved @integralofe^2v @hardcoreisdead @SchrodingerBilla
iTeachChem Helper
iTeachChem Helper•3w ago
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