Kills my TPS even when fully disabled?
I've been building a large modpack, and during testing i found that my TPS was pasuing alot during gameplay. This was evident on the TPS graph with ALT + F3, yet no spikes occurred when the ticks came back. I did a binary search and found it was DH, tried enabling it but disabling distant gen and rendering DH cunks, and my TPS is still consumed. If i unninstall DH however, it's fine.
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How much ram do you have allocated?
16GB
out of 32
more like 18GB actaully:
18GB is far too much. Try decreasing it to 12 or less. Also do you have stutters if you load up mc with the only mod being DH?
Less is more?
More ram != it will run better
trying 10GB and DH only.
Sometimes i use multiplayer mods to Server Host from within the game, should i increase it if I'm doing that?
Only if you are running out of ram
should i use task manager to tell if that is the case?
The F3 screen
In the top right is a ram %. If it goes to 80-90% or more and stutters then you probably don't have enough allocated
alr
Still stuttering on 10GB of RAM if i enable the rest of the mods.
Do you have C2me installed?
nope
Forge btw
Try it with that and syntra connector
alr
That improved performance a ton with my forge 1.20.1 pack
I'm not entirely sure it's performace cause even if i diable all the features it still bugs
idk what else it would be tho
fabric version crashed, should i try the neoforge version?
idk much about sinytra apart from that it's often jankwith large mods
nvm neo version isnt on 1.20.1
Did you have Sinytra installed?
Yeah that one
yup
any ideas?
Sinytra was already installed
i can't test for a while but i dont really have a game plan for later
Did you change any java args or your java distro?
You could try this version of C2ME
https://modrinth.com/mod/c2mef
Modrinth
Concurrent Chunk Management Engine for Forge - Minecraft Mod
Yet another unofficial forge port of C2ME. A designed to improve the chunk performance of Minecraft.
It supports Forge 1.20.1
I'll try it but it's odd that my fps and general usage is fine. The TPS is only noticeable when mobs don't move or new chunks don't gen.
I did actually switch from java 17 to java 21 mid creation, so i probably had DH installed in java 17, before switching to 21
Java Args are auto generated by Modrinth App btw
Theres a bunch in there
Incompatabile with Very Many Players
trying it with VMP disabled
do you also think that changing my Java Version could of lead to problems?
also conflicts with Canary
Yeah i was unable to fix it using any C2ME version
Okay just so Im still following the issue, whenever you have DH installed, TPS tanks and you get issues like mobs moving slow and blocks taking a second to break. You arent having FPS issues or lag spike issues.
Right?
Did you still have this issue when you just had DH installed?
nope
correct, just tps and effects form tps
And with disabled all its features you mean like disabled rendering, set the CPU load to the lowest setting and disabled distant generation?
yup
absoulelty everything turned off
now LODS rendered
No LODs generated
nothing
And CPU load set to minimum right?
yup
on 1.
Could you generate a spark report?
sure thing, i already tried doing some stuff with spark but i struggle to diagnose stuff from there and i was kinda confused
it's also worth noting that on the in-game tps graph, you cannot see any spikes
I'll chnage that too
this look ok as a cmd?:
/spark profiler --timeout 60
Just spark profiler stop and it should generate a report and start again on its own
oh alr
generating a new world rq
it failed to generate a web version
i have disc version u can upload
Wdym it failed, what did it say?
personally, i struggle to find anything standing out, which i reckon is related to the fact that there are no spikes on the in-game tps graph, despite the fact that i can see it pausing
Yeah Im not seeing DH contributing to the lag at all
exactly
At this point I have two ideas left, one is to disable weather2 and cold sweat, and see if that significantly changes anything
The other is to do a binary search but always have DH enabled and see if there is a mod that has some incompatibility with it
binary search was gruelling last time but ig
ill try disabling the other 2
i mihgt also try go back a few version on DH and see if anything happens
yeah disabling those 2 didn't help, I'll try change version then i'll binary search
it's defo a mod hating on DH or smth
backporting DH has fixed it
this suggests it's an issue with DH?
wait maybe it didnt
im so cinfused
yeah backport defo fixed
going back a few DH updates
imma go as recent as i can without it bugging
backport is definetly the wrong word here as it implies you ported something and you just chnaged version
I've alwasy used downgrade, though rollback is probably more correct
You can also go wild with downdatemb
since rolling back fixed it, should i mark as solved?
You rolled back from which to which version exactly?
It is alwasy best to use the latest DH version so I wouldn't really call rolling back a fix
no longer marked as solved
@Skillnoob_ any idea what this means?
share the whole log
this one should have it
latest.log uploaded to mclo.gsUploaded by _the_realone
seems to be a DH exclusive issue
Eh I would assume its some mod incompatebility
is there a way to tell?
you have a ton of mods
yeah lol
idk the log is basically just watchdog throwing up
what kinda mods would be incompat?
optimisation?
Maybe
first check if any of the mods you have are mentioned in #faq-mod-support
all the big ones are usually fine
alr
ik i have alex caves
but i fixed it so that it isn't black
I'm all good in there
Then first update DH back to the latest, since that wasn't the issue
only thing is alex caves but i changed that one true to a false so it should be good
alr
After that what you want to do is a !binary search, but you never remove DH from your mods. This is really gonna be the only way of identifying what mod is causing the issue
Try a binary search and figure out which mod is causing it.
So disable half of the mods, see if issue is still there, if yes disable half again etc etc until you find the mod that's causing the issue.
i might start with optim mods first as well
Nah just do all mods
alr
Because I've had c2me cause the server to freeze because of a block replacement mod, so it can be anything
whats the best way to do this bearing in mind libraies? should i start with only DH then enable half? or start by halfing whats enabled
from top down or from bottom up ig
ig no diff
I've always just added back the libraries it needs when it complains starting up
tru
if i find the mod should i report it here or to mod owner?
here first
the log won't gen past this: https://mclo.gs/wSEvI7j
is this max size or smth?
the tps is buggy but i can't tell if it's angry or nah
iceandfire is complaining at the end
i would expect log to be more or less constantly geneorating while flying baout?
testing in cretaive mode and the log just stays there
its just spamming this
Invalid bites value: 4
Invalid bites value: 4
Invalid bites value: 4
Invalid bites value: 4
Invalid bites value: 4
well thats fantastic
forge moment
is that an incompat with ice and fire on it's own?
or some library is missing :shrug:
but it's defo ice and fire?
it requires citadel
it's enabled
but it's defo ice and fire that's crashing out over bites?
i have a few ice and fire addons that might be doing it
In the end its complaining about sm
bro how do i figure ts out
do i binary search my binary search at this point
and is this in the log with all the mods?
this log
scroll down a lot
yeah but was it also doing that earlier?
no
that suggests i keep going and it will be fine in the end
maybe
part-way thru binary search again
all i see is DH
@Skillnoob_ any ideas?
can't test with it crashing like ts
no idea
great
neither
i think i might of found roughly which mod it is?
i can't tell if the tps is just bad cause of the mods or if the conflict is conflicting
cause so far the tps isn't completely cooked
just pretty poor
wanna check my logs?
I doubt it will tell me much
watch dog throws up cause of incompat
if watchdog isn't throwing up then no incompat?
ok it's defo in my current selection
tps is 0 and i walk htrough DH chunks
check that one out
did you fixed it??
this new version of dh is breaking my server perfomance
nah
still clueless
I made a new modpack and passed all the mods and deleted the config folder
I don't know if it really improved but there are no lag spikes
what was ur mod diff?
like what mods were removed?
we can compare both of urs with mine and maybe find a few mods that might of been the fault
i didnt removed my mod
just config?
mods*
yes
ok
alr
was ur tps 0 or was it just lag?
like for me now chunks would load and mobs wouldn't move
0 tps 0 fps and memory leak
i had fine fps
like 120
just 0 tps
but i removed some mods
mem was ok
immersive weathering
ancient golems
weather2
mca reborn
i use weather 2
dynamic trees
that too
tps is fine now
aler
remove dynamic trees
*alr
weather2 is more optimized
dynamic trees are eating your memory
i think i had a issue similar to this with tps kind of stalling, idk if thats whats going on here but i wasnt using dynamic trees
i am having this problem too
for some reason dh 2.3.4b are eating my ram
I don't think it's ram for me. In the f3 menu does your tps graph just stall sometimes and not even show a spike?
reduce balanced cpu to minimal impact