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iTeachChemβ€’3w ago
Jeepaglu

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It's the "repetition allowed" that's confusing me
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iTeachChem Helper
iTeachChem Helperβ€’3w ago
@Apu
iTeachChem Helper
iTeachChem Helperβ€’3w ago
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silverdew
silverdewβ€’3w ago
is the answer 2994??
silverdew
silverdewβ€’3w ago
hope the solution is understandable
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SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’3w ago
Yo I have a goated solution for this And for these kinda problems If you are familiar with number bases (like conversion to binary and stuff)
nori
noriβ€’3w ago
isnt it 2997? cuz u have 42920 and 42922 as the 2995th and 2996th resp
silverdew
silverdewβ€’3w ago
ohh yes yes forgot about those πŸ’€ Nmod2 or Nmod10 sumn that stuff?
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’3w ago
No like conversion from decimal to binary kinda thing Serial number would be 2998? 'Cuz you would also have to add 1? Idk I'm too lazy to check calcs, but a simple way is to in this case convert the number to base 6
nori
noriβ€’3w ago
but isnt 42923 the 2997th one like this is after adding 1
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’3w ago
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SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’3w ago
Yeah maybe I messed up my calculations πŸ˜” If you are familiar with this method you just need to do $(31512){6}-(10,000){6}+1$ which saves you a lot of time
TeXit
TeXitβ€’3w ago
SirLancelotDuLac
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nori
noriβ€’3w ago
oh cool
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’3w ago
Just subtract and convert to decimal
silverdew
silverdewβ€’3w ago
ooh nicee
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’3w ago
Thanks. You can also use this in other places Similar to this question. For example if repetition was not allowed, 1+2+3+4+5 is 15 in decimal or 23 in base 6. In base 6, sum of property wali cheez is with 5, so it must be divisible by 5 and some other constraints :/
silverdew
silverdewβ€’3w ago
oooh does this come under Number Theory??
Real potato
Real potatoβ€’3w ago
Wth even is this:aah:
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’3w ago
Yeah.
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’3w ago
Number Bases
We use Base 10 every day, it is our Decimal Number Systemand has 10 digits ... 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 ... We count like this
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’3w ago
If you wanna check out more An easier way to do all those "find this things position" or stuff like "find number of sum 5-digit numbers" Like for instance idhar poochta number of 5 digit numbers such that sum of digits is divisible by 4 in our conversion You could just have done sum of digits being div. by 4 meaning differing by 5 in base 6
Real potato
Real potatoβ€’3w ago
Woah That is so cool
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’3w ago
Yeah man It doesn't always work
Real potato
Real potatoβ€’3w ago
What is this method called though? Never seen it anywhere
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’3w ago
(Because question mein they might throw something which will make conversion difficult) I created this in my jee prep πŸ˜ƒ
Real potato
Real potatoβ€’3w ago
Ah i see
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’3w ago
And I'm just so glad I got to share it bro. When I told my teachers they just said stop wasting time.
Real potato
Real potatoβ€’3w ago
W man😭 you created a method by yourself :sweaty: They are always like thatπŸ’€
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’3w ago
Another one for drawing graphs of compositions of simple functions like sin(e^x) without differentiating it But I'll share it when a doubt thread arises, or in #πŸ“β”‚media
Real potato
Real potatoβ€’3w ago
Im more interested in this even tbh Yeah sure
silverdew
silverdewβ€’3w ago
WOW. WOW. WOW. Sir Lancelot DuLac, could I gain the honour of becoming your apprentice? πŸ› woahh
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’3w ago
Yeah man, I had a notebook where I jotted this down explanatively Will post if I ever find it.
silverdew
silverdewβ€’3w ago
thank you, Sir. πŸ›
Jeepaglu
JeepagluOPβ€’3w ago
I'm semi familiar with conversion to binary What is this magic The answer is 2997 byw I didn't understand the "but we'll get" part
silverdew
silverdewβ€’3w ago
if you use up the 6 digits available in the set, then there are going to numbers like 42974 which are greater than 42923 so we need to remove the excess
Jeepaglu
JeepagluOPβ€’3w ago
Ohh the numbers bigger than the target Okay I understood that method @SirLancelotDuLac can you tell me a bit more about your base conversion method? Like how what whutnjdjj
silverdew
silverdewβ€’3w ago
yes yes
Prasan
Prasanβ€’2w ago
@Jeepaglu dont close, need to see the goated solution given
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’2w ago
Yea sure: Check out the link above to see what number base systems are. Then you can just think of it this way we call 2 in the above question as 1, 3 as 2 and so on Then imagine all the 5 digited permutations These will be of the form 10000 10001 10002 and so on As if you're counting in base 6 'ere. So the position of given target is this
Jeepaglu
JeepagluOPβ€’2w ago
Oh so basically you remove the Random gaps between numbers And make them more intuitive?
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’2w ago
Yeah, that's a good way to sumarize it.
Jeepaglu
JeepagluOPβ€’2w ago
Ohhhhhhh I understand it now
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’2w ago
This works in these kind of questions. Not always but when it does, it makes it a one liner
Jeepaglu
JeepagluOPβ€’2w ago
And since it'll be base 6 it'll only have 6 digits Wpohooooo

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