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iTeachChemβ€’2d ago
Sephrina

Electric field

Saw this question in a server, found it wonderful but the solution they gave was SOOOO long, I wanna know if a easier way is there
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iTeachChem Helper
iTeachChem Helperβ€’2d ago
@Gyro Gearloose
iTeachChem Helper
iTeachChem Helperβ€’2d ago
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Sephrina
SephrinaOPβ€’2d ago
Can we relate the magnetic field and electric field? No wait ye to insulating rod hai Guass law? @SirLancelotDuLac sirr
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AYβ€’2d ago
gauss law cant be used cause first its infinite. second each point on the rod has a small charge and its at different distance from our concerned point P so u will need to take multiple gaussian surfaces for each point and in that consider an infinitesimal fraction of that flux and add (pretty much integration. but this seems tedious to derive..) if we have to toil so much integration of horizontal and vertical components (the solution u prolly saw) is better
Sephrina
SephrinaOPβ€’2d ago
It's not infinite, yeah I got why gauss law can't be used
Sephrina
SephrinaOPβ€’2d ago
How about this?
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SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’2d ago
Okay, gauss law won't work for this, but if we are only concerned with finding the value, we can do this thing Consider 2 cases: one where d>>>L then the line charge acts as point source; and one where d<<<L, the line source will act as an infinite line source
Sephrina
SephrinaOPβ€’2d ago
Linear density le ke nahi kar sakte
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’2d ago
So for case 1 $\frac{k.\lambda.l}{d^{2}}$ and for 2nd one $\frac{2k.\lambda}{d}$
TeXit
TeXitβ€’2d ago
SirLancelotDuLac
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Sephrina
SephrinaOPβ€’2d ago
Kyunki l ka aur angle to hai hi Hain alag alag kaise
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’2d ago
Yeah what I'm describing this not precisely solution, it's more of how to make a tukka πŸ˜”
Sephrina
SephrinaOPβ€’2d ago
Are sahi sahi batao 😭😭
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’2d ago
Otherwise solution is via integration
Sephrina
SephrinaOPβ€’2d ago
Par kyu ? Ye sahi hai?
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’2d ago
Kyunki har ek charge alag tareeke se repel karega and so on
Sephrina
SephrinaOPβ€’2d ago
To is Wale ka integral karna hoga?
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’2d ago
Yep this is correct Jo formula hai woh integration se aata hai
Sephrina
SephrinaOPβ€’2d ago
To ye seedha kar sakte haina
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’2d ago
I mean if you know the formula then yeah.
Sephrina
SephrinaOPβ€’2d ago
Jinka original tha unka sol to smj hi nhi aaya
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Sephrina
SephrinaOPβ€’2d ago
Hn ye to pata hai
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’2d ago
This is basically derivation of the formula
Sephrina
SephrinaOPβ€’2d ago
😭
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’2d ago
Wait I'll try to write this out cleaner
Sephrina
SephrinaOPβ€’2d ago
Okk
Real potato
Real potatoβ€’2d ago
Bro had to do it on a single paper onlyπŸ₯€
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’2d ago
The bhoomika wala part
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SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’2d ago
The gadit wala part
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SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’2d ago
Do ping if any doubt @Sephrina Also retirement kabh milega πŸ₯€
Sephrina
SephrinaOPβ€’2d ago
πŸ™‚ Tan theta kyu nikal rhe 😭 Hume to electric field nikalni hai
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’2d ago
See the sqrt(d^2+x^2) wala part? Usko solve karne ke liye we use substitution
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’2d ago
The Organic Chemistry Tutor
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Trigonometric Substitution
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Sephrina
SephrinaOPβ€’2d ago
To usme tan kaha hai
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’2d ago
If we do x=dtan(theta) toh x^2+d^2 gives d^2sec^2 which is a clean term to work with.
Sephrina
SephrinaOPβ€’2d ago
Oooo okeyy Makes sense πŸ™‚ Math Koi nhi
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’2d ago
Never mind that last part sorry But yea...
Sephrina
SephrinaOPβ€’2d ago
Koi nhi +solved @SirLancelotDuLac
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iTeachChem Helperβ€’2d ago
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