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protestant-coral

Rocket League (Epic Games) doesnt open anymore after installing all the wine dependecies from PinMsg

I had an issue where apparently, the game would only run the first time after a restart, then if i wanted to play again, i would need to add PROTON_USE_WINED3D=1 for it to run, i was using PROTON_SAREK10-15 but after installing all the dependencies from wine as told in the first message from the Pinned Post, it wont open anymore with or without PROTON_USE_WINED3D=1, i restarted once again (after installing the wine dependencies) and the game will open but wont get to the logos (company and epic games logos and stuff) not using PROTON_USE_WINED3D=1, but wont even open with it, so im at a lost. I tried different things, like enabling/disabling UMU (which would make the game launching faster when it was working), using Steam's Runtime (which would get me around 10fps more than not using it) adding USE_NVAPI=1 with PROTON_SAREK10-15 (because that would get me better performance too) but nothing seem to make a difference, not even switching to any other proton/wine build i have installed gets me any further to the game Can someone help me try to figure out whats wrong? Here's Heroic's log https://0x0.st/KMlQ.log Epic's log https://0x0.st/KMlM.log Rocket League's log https://0x0.st/KMlu.log and here's my hardware https://0x0.st/KMlB.log
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CommandMC
CommandMC2mo ago
info: Found device: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 ( 0.0.0) info: Skipping: Device does not support Vulkan 1.3
You need Proton-Sarek You're currently using Proton Experimental
"wineVersion": { "bin": "/home/lik/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/proton", "name": "Proton - Proton - Experimental", "type": "proton" }, "disableUMU": true,
This is also not a good idea
using Steam's Runtime (which would get me around 10fps more than not using it)
This is impossible
adding USE_NVAPI=1 with PROTON_SAREK10-15 (because that would get me better performance too)
This is incorrect for multiple reasons. For one, your GPU does not support any recent NVAPI features, this game doesn't use NVAPI, and the env var to enable NVAPI is called PROTON_ENABLE_NVAPI (so setting USE_NVAPI to anything will not modify what Proton does)
protestant-coral
protestant-coralOP2mo ago
sorry i sent the logs while using proton experimental, since as i said i was trying different builds to see if i could run it again i havent looked at what it does yet, but could u explain the reason? can it break y system in some way?
CommandMC
CommandMC2mo ago
Any recent Proton version that isn't Proton-Sarek will not run on your device period. Your hardware lacks the capabilities for modern DXVK. No point in trying
protestant-coral
protestant-coralOP2mo ago
well its true i havent tested it for more than maybe 4 tries (2 with and 2 without it enabled) but thats what i saw, both times with it enabled had around 10fps more than with it disabled) and about the NVAPI, the same thing, although in the Proton-Sarek github release pages, it does say u can enable it using USE_NVAPI
CommandMC
CommandMC2mo ago
Proton is intended to be ran inside a runtime. When ran from Steam, Steam provides that runtime. When ran outside Steam, umu does. If you disable umu and thus run Proton without a runtime, it may just work, it may not work entirely, or it may mostly work but cause strange issues Unless you have a specific reason to disable umu (which in this case you don't), leave it enabled
protestant-coral
protestant-coralOP2mo ago
i see
CommandMC
CommandMC2mo ago
The performance differences you observed were caused by something else then. The Steam Runtime does not affect performance in any meaningful way, and again NVAPI is not used by this game & not supported by your GPU; it cannot possibly change performance (that's not what NVAPI would do if it would be used either)
protestant-coral
protestant-coralOP2mo ago
so one thing i should probably add is, the time it stopped working, i disabled the igpu on the bios, although it did work the first time (with better performance too even tho i didnt change any setting on heroic prior to that), then i installed the said dependencies with the link on the pinned post, and then thats is when it stopped running again even after rebooting, which is then when i made this post now i enabled the igpu again on the bios, and the game runs again, im kinda affraid itll stop working again so i will just play a bit and forget about this issue (because im kinda burned out by having to troubleshoot some other issues today) and then when i stop playing ill try to re-open it again and see if it doesnt work again with the same settings im using now i probably have to mention this too, right now i have the same settings as i said in the post (if im not missing anything, they are the same ones i was using) and using Proton-Sarek too, which are giving me around the same fps as before but a bit less (which would infact indicate an external reason as to why, as u said)
The Steam Runtime does not affect performance in any meaningful way
can that happen tho depending on, say, the cpu im using? im running on a decade old average hardware, so i assume what would not affect performance at all on maybe newer hardware could be a factor for older, maybe a difference on the number of processes or something like that, sorry if what im saying doesnt make any sense, im not that knowledgeable
CommandMC
CommandMC2mo ago
I've not done any tests on this, but I'd expect the overhead of the Steam Runtime to be somewhere between 1% and 0.1% If anything, it'll add overhead though, so getting better performance with it enabled makes no sense at all
protestant-coral
protestant-coralOP2mo ago
i see

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