but keep in mind, that depressing trim button also commands the FCS in helicopters (in DCS).
but keep in mind, that depressing trim button also commands the FCS in helicopters (in DCS).
Fjust moving the stick somewhere wouldn't tell the FCS what you want to do...
VThe never ending struggle, my old gloves have a hole worn into the thumb because of it
Fi use fingerless gloves 
VI use WileyX Aries now, much nicer, and thicker leather
Fah nice, what about heat and sweat in these?
VIt's not too bad but I've usually got a portable AC running in the summer. Keeps it below 22C at the cockpit
Fhehe alright, i use these simple ones:
VThat does looks very comfortable
VBut muh immersion
Fi don't see them with the VR HMD 
VBut I'd know they're there
VThat's a bigger issue for me though, the G2 gets quite hot
Fbrain override mode helps xD
TIf you move the stick in say the AH-64 to achieve straight and level and take your hand off it, isn't it effectively 'trimmed' ?
VOnly if you press the trim release at that position
TWhat about the likes of an H125 that has no trim button?
VThose I believe just have a friction collar at the base
Vand with irreversible hydraulics it'd either be held in place by the friction or fall over
TBut I can fly all day long with my spring loaded stick if I hold the force. If the rhino holds the position there is no need to trim?
VTechnically yes, although you might run into SCAS saturation in the apache and you'd need to hold the trim release down to get stability back working fully
Vmy stick has no springs and I can fly without every touching the trim but I lose the benefit of the stability channels
VIt's more apparent in the Ka50
FYep, AH-64's SCAS needs re-trimming over time
Fit'll will tell you in the upper display if saturation is reached
VIt also beeps very angrily
VHate that thing
TThanks you two. It sounds like just what I'm after for aeroplanes and helicopters. I'm not opposed to the trim button just wanted to know it would stay in position. I'm lucky to fly an A/C that needs no manual trimming.
VThat's one of the reasons I've been waiting for FFB for so long, changing my stick between helicopters and planes is such a pain
DDont treat it like a joystick with damper minus springs, treat it like a force feedback joystick with dampen and springback functionality
Fthe Ka-50 is more like a drohne, with the trimming button which works more like a enter key. it can basically fly you everywhere without needing to move the cyclic, with a full flight plan and low level altitude flight following the landscape
it can basically fly you everywhere without needing to move the cyclic, with a full flight plan and low level altitude flight following the landscapeFset everything up, trim the attitude you want and it goes
DSo can apache and some minor with some assist gazelle/hind
VMi-24 is almost there too, once you're trimmed you can fly around just twiddling the course setting knob
DPfft, who needs autopilot
That doesnt do the Mi-24's fantastic flight model justice
That doesnt do the Mi-24's fantastic flight model justice
VI get so unbelievably bored doing it so I'm definitely team pitch/roll channel and nothing else
DI dont use any autopilot
DNot even spuu
DAP is for pussies
DJust match that damn greben ;)
DExcept when I wanna hover somewhere out of site and go downstairs to grab myself a rum
Fin the huey, the autopilot sits left from you
DCheers! Can i get one too?
DThats why i just press C and walk away
DGuess you could use CPG in hind/apache too
DYeah, though in the apache the chance is rather great that the cpg doesnt have flight binds set up
Its by far my most advanced setup using modifiers toggles and all that stuff to cycle between flight, all systems and such
Its by far my most advanced setup using modifiers toggles and all that stuff to cycle between flight, all systems and such
DEven my modifiers needed modifiers
VHah, y'all have friends?
VSolo apache here
DSingle apache looking for cpgs
VFor front seat flying I just have a toggle switch as a modifier that maps with the flight controls. A bit annoying to set up but it's alright
