Well I don't understand in the slightest how spans work or anything like that and to be perfectly ho

Well
I don't understand in the slightest how spans work or anything like that and to be perfectly honest I don't give a monkey for them
They gave me trouble when I tried to use them so I just stuck with unsafe and it's been smooth ever since

AAqua Well I don't understand in the slightest how spans work or anything like that an...

Spider-Kyle•8/12/22, 12:14 AM

aren't spans just collections of items?

Perksey•8/12/22, 12:14 AM

a span is just both a pointer and a length

AquaOP•8/12/22, 12:14 AM

Far as I'm aware a span is a safe pointer to an array

AquaOP•8/12/22, 12:14 AM

But might be wrong

Perksey•8/12/22, 12:15 AM

var array = new [] { 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 }   // <-- Array
                  // ---^^^^^^^---     // <-- A "span" of elements: start index being 1, including 3 elements.
var span = array.AsSpan().Slice(1, 3); // <-- A span that represents the above

var array = new [] { 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 }   // <-- Array
                  // ---^^^^^^^---     // <-- A "span" of elements: start index being 1, including 3 elements.
var span = array.AsSpan().Slice(1, 3); // <-- A span that represents the above

Spider-Kyle•8/12/22, 12:16 AM

ok i understand

PPerksey is unsafe code really that unavoidable?

AquaOP•8/12/22, 12:16 AM

To answer your question when I tried the little amount of safe overloads I did it complained that it couldn't infer the type I was passing in
I tried for a while to fix it before I gave up and used unsafe
But I can't really say cause half the C# code I write is in an unsafe context anyway so I'm used to it now

Spider-Kyle•8/12/22, 12:16 AM

i am learning C++ and i am getting the hang of pointers

Spider-Kyle•8/12/22, 12:17 AM

they are locations of other variables

AAqua To answer your question when I tried the little amount of safe overloads I did i...

Perksey•8/12/22, 12:17 AM

yeah fair

Perksey•8/12/22, 12:17 AM

one thing I hope 3.0 can do is, i hate to say it, but be more pythonic with its parameter types

AquaOP•8/12/22, 12:17 AM

Yeah fair enough

AquaOP•8/12/22, 12:18 AM

I think having better safe overloads is good

AquaOP•8/12/22, 12:18 AM

(I assume that's what you mean)

Perksey•8/12/22, 12:18 AM

i.e.

void SomeThing(int* a)
{
}

void SomeThing(PointerLike<int> a)
{
}

void SomeThing(int* a)
{
}

void SomeThing(PointerLike<int> a)
{
}

PointerLike

PointerLike

being a type that can be implicitly converted to from a pointer, array, ref(???), span, etc

Perksey•8/12/22, 12:18 AM

no idea that'd work though

AquaOP•8/12/22, 12:18 AM

Yeah

AquaOP•8/12/22, 12:18 AM

If you can pull it off that would be great

Perksey•8/12/22, 12:18 AM

but yeah the worst part about today's overloader is while it gives you options, there are so many that you have literally no idea what that they are

SSpider-Kyle they are locations of other variables

Lyris the Kitori•8/12/22, 12:18 AM

its more a location in memory of 'something' not nessesary a variable

PPerksey but yeah the worst part about today's overloader is while it gives you options, ...

AquaOP•8/12/22, 12:19 AM

Lmao

Lyris the Kitori•8/12/22, 12:19 AM

it can be an IO address, an array

AquaOP•8/12/22, 12:19 AM

600 overloads

Perksey•8/12/22, 12:19 AM

nono

Perksey•8/12/22, 12:19 AM

6000

Perksey•8/12/22, 12:19 AM

actually 12000

AquaOP•8/12/22, 12:19 AM

LOL

Perksey•8/12/22, 12:19 AM

for a SINGLE FUNCTION

AquaOP•8/12/22, 12:19 AM

ah yes

Redhacker2•8/12/22, 12:19 AM

hmm

LLyris the Kitori it can be an IO address, an array

Spider-Kyle•8/12/22, 12:19 AM

darn,sololearn lied to me then

AquaOP•8/12/22, 12:19 AM

This function has as many overloads as the current energy prices in England

Redhacker2•8/12/22, 12:19 AM

so did Assimp get topped?

Perksey•8/12/22, 12:20 AM

yep

RRedhacker2 so did Assimp get topped?

Spider-Kyle•8/12/22, 12:20 AM

wdym?

Redhacker2•8/12/22, 12:20 AM

woah, by what?

RRedhacker2 woah, by what?

Perksey•8/12/22, 12:20 AM

there was a function in D2D1 with 16 pointer parameters

Redhacker2•8/12/22, 12:20 AM

oh dear god

Perksey•8/12/22, 12:20 AM

generated 2(2^16) overloads

Redhacker2•8/12/22, 12:20 AM

oh god

Spider-Kyle•8/12/22, 12:21 AM

speaking of pointers and unsafe code,do you plan on adding a way to use safe code while creating buffer objects?

AquaOP•8/12/22, 12:21 AM

that is actually hilarious

Redhacker2•8/12/22, 12:21 AM

that makes ASSIMP look sane

SSpider-Kyle speaking of pointers and unsafe code,do you plan on adding a way to use safe cod...

Perksey•8/12/22, 12:21 AM

there's already a way

Perksey•8/12/22, 12:21 AM

but again the visibility is terrible

PPerksey there's already a way

Redhacker2•8/12/22, 12:21 AM

use safe overloads

PPerksey there's already a way

Spider-Kyle•8/12/22, 12:21 AM

then why is it not in the docs?

Spider-Kyle•8/12/22, 12:21 AM

or examples to be more precise

Perksey•8/12/22, 12:21 AM

because it's not the best use of silk maintainer time right now

Perksey•8/12/22, 12:22 AM

maintainer time is best spent on actually developing the library right now

var array = new [] { 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 } // <-- Array // ---^^^^^^^--- // <-- A "span" of elements: start index being 1, including 3 elements. var span = array.AsSpan().Slice(1, 3); // <-- A span that represents the above

Well I don't understand in the slightest how spans work or anything like that and to be perfectly ho

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