well that's why i was thinking of the `PointerLike` stuff

well that's why i was thinking of the

PointerLike

PointerLike

PointerLike

PointerLike stuff

PerkseyOP•8/12/22, 12:27 AM

one parameter type that multiple types implicitly convert to

PerkseyOP•8/12/22, 12:27 AM

the main issue i can already see is ref lifetime though and implicit ref conversions

PPerksey well that's why i was thinking of the `PointerLike` stuff

Redhacker2•8/12/22, 12:27 AM

hmm

Redhacker2•8/12/22, 12:27 AM

interesting

PerkseyOP•8/12/22, 12:27 AM

actually ref lifetimes would be easy

PerkseyOP•8/12/22, 12:27 AM

but the implicit conversion of a ref to a type is i think impossible

PerkseyOP•8/12/22, 12:27 AM

so it'd have to be new(ref x)new(ref x) instead of ref xref x

Aqua•8/12/22, 12:28 AM

Lifetimes? I thought that was only a rust thing

AAqua Lifetimes? I thought that was only a rust thing

Redhacker2•8/12/22, 12:28 AM

most certainly not

PerkseyOP•8/12/22, 12:28 AM

rust is just the thing that makes lifetimes explicit

PerkseyOP•8/12/22, 12:28 AM

you have implicit lifetimes in C#

PerkseyOP•8/12/22, 12:28 AM

you also have scary things called "GC holes" as well

Redhacker2•8/12/22, 12:28 AM

it is a thing in all languages, some do better at hiding it

Aqua•8/12/22, 12:28 AM

I see

Redhacker2•8/12/22, 12:29 AM

RAII for instance in C++

PerkseyOP•8/12/22, 12:29 AM

int* x = default;
{
    int y;
    x = &y;
}
// y is out of scope thus x's "lifetime" has been exceeded

int* x = default;
{
    int y;
    x = &y;
}
// y is out of scope thus x's "lifetime" has been exceeded

PerkseyOP•8/12/22, 12:30 AM

same with

Span<int> x = default;
{
    int y = default;
    x = MemoryMarshal.AsSpan(ref y, 1);
}
// y is out of scope thus x's "lifetime" has been exceeded

Span<int> x = default;
{
    int y = default;
    x = MemoryMarshal.AsSpan(ref y, 1);
}
// y is out of scope thus x's "lifetime" has been exceeded

PerkseyOP•8/12/22, 12:30 AM

though i realised the easy solution would be just make

PointerLike

PointerLike

itself a ref structref struct that can track its own refs

PerkseyOP•8/12/22, 12:35 AM

ah yep it's illegal https://sharplab.io/#v2:EYLgxg9gTgpgtADwGwBYA0AXEBDAzgWwB8ABAJgEYBYAKGIAYACY8gOgCUBXAOwwEt8YLAJI8YUCAAcAymIBuvMDFwBuGvSatOPfoIDCEfBN4AbMTKjzFKmmoDMDWADMGuDFA5gMDAAoReoqAAZXgBrGAAeABUAPgYAdwALMRgGSJAGbnxsLmwAcxgAExoAbxoGcoYJKF5ZbAwUqQlsqNiAfVwmrlVqCqZ7ZiQGGAQJYwVeL0kxOugfPwDgsJaACidUhgQASjLeioBeWK4YOLn/eqDQiJiGYoZ2zoY9hgBZGHxoAE9n7ChcBOxjCxdLA6jBGtlVjBnAg0AxyJsGABfbqImhAA===

SharpLab

C#/VB/F# compiler playground.

KKai Please use an data source instead of the foor loops and use a XUnit theory

Redhacker2•8/12/22, 12:58 AM

question, do you want me to write an IEnumerable<(int,int,int, int)>, if so is the behavior to be like the previous for loop, and I imagine you would want both tests to be done in such a manner?

Lyris the Kitori•8/12/22, 1:56 AM

okay got everything written down for live backend switching
https://github.com/orgs/Furball-Engine/projects/1/views/1
so hopefully without needing a restart i can switch between OpenGL, GLES, Veldrid, DX11, etc.

Lyris the Kitori•8/12/22, 1:56 AM

gonna chew through this one by one

Lyris the Kitori•8/12/22, 3:45 AM

ah great version number https://i.beyleyisnot.moe/68oAM2g.png

Lyris the Kitori•8/12/22, 4:55 AM

yup nothing wrong here https://i.beyleyisnot.moe/k8IpBpE.png

Lyris the Kitori•8/12/22, 4:59 AM

ignoring that mishap, heres quad https://i.beyleyisnot.moe/GlZqz0g.png

Lyris the Kitori•8/12/22, 4:59 AM

d3d9

Lyris the Kitori•8/12/22, 6:57 AM

dxvk + d3d9 is actually a really good way to get renderdoc debugging

RRedhacker2 question, do you want me to write an IEnumerable<(int,int,int, int)>, if so is t...

Kai•8/12/22, 7:25 AM

Not sure I understand what you're saying

PerkseyOP•8/12/22, 6:10 PM

Lyris the Kitori•8/12/22, 6:11 PM

i can't wait for the day when someone comes in here asking for help cus they tried to use that with something that expects UTF16 :^)

PerkseyOP•8/12/22, 6:12 PM

well in that case you have char* name = "POS"char* name = "POS"

Lyris the Kitori•8/12/22, 6:12 PM

what about ShiftJIS

PerkseyOP•8/12/22, 6:12 PM

no idea

Lyris the Kitori•8/12/22, 6:13 PM

old japanese c libraries intensify

Kai•8/12/22, 7:12 PM

oh god no please

Kai•8/12/22, 7:12 PM

I'd rather think about UTF128

Kai•8/12/22, 7:14 PM

Since no sentient life has been found on Mars, the code
points that would have been allocated for Martian imojis are hereby
allocated for this private use. These addresses are thus called
"Martians", also known as "Bogons" due to them being bogus.

this is a joke, right?

Lyris the Kitori•8/12/22, 7:15 PM

poor martians

Kai•8/12/22, 7:15 PM

(That's from RFC-8369, "Internationalizing IPv6 Using 128-Bit Unicode")

Kai•8/12/22, 7:16 PM

Either the person that wrote this has taken many drugs or this is a joke

Kai•8/12/22, 7:16 PM

I'm leaning towards joke, but I'm not 100% convinced

Lyris the Kitori•8/12/22, 7:16 PM

128 bit unicode scares me

Kai•8/12/22, 7:16 PM

IPv6 addresses no longer need to be typed as hex values --
instead, the glyph for the script character, symbol, emoji, or
imoji representing that address can be input by the user, and it
will be displayed by the application as the graphic itself. From
the user's perspective, this will also be more compact than the
representation described in RFC 1924 [RFC1924].

I mean that seems like it's a joke, right?

Lyris the Kitori•8/12/22, 7:16 PM

def is

Kai•8/12/22, 7:17 PM

Feels like it's fairly obvious that this makes no sense, but it's also the kind of thing I've heard people that don't really know what they are talking about suggest