So looking at the VPforce software. What are "constant force" and "periodic effects gain" ? Or is th
So looking at the VPforce software. What are "constant force" and "periodic effects gain" ? Or is there a manual anywhere ?
Scan someone post a video of this thing in action
SI want to see the force feedback in a ww2 plane or f14 tomcat
BI'm curious, could the rhino work as a omni-throttle for Elite Dangerous, where the X axis is just damper and the Y is spring with maybe some psudo detents for marking the halfway point?
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MTo separate different functions to avoid crosstalk between axes you want to behave differently
Pthat doesn't explain why
M, though y axis being damped and x being sprung makes more sense since a throttle moves in y.
The 'why' is because you want a throttle to stay at whatever position you leave but roll or other directional inputs you operate briefly as proportional commands benefit from having a spring nudging input back to zero.
The 'why' is because you want a throttle to stay at whatever position you leave but roll or other directional inputs you operate briefly as proportional commands benefit from having a spring nudging input back to zero.
BLike, you plan on getting 2 for a HOSAS set up?
MThe question was if x and y axis can be set to different functions on the same stick, one being damper for throttle the other a sculped spring profile for a movement axis. No mention was made of how the other 4 axes are being dealt with.
MIt's not my questions or control scheme. Maybe @bfgfreak can elaborate on the goal here
WA manual is definitely on my to-do list!
Constant force option in effects tab is an adjustable ... constant force (CF). It adds a certain amount of torque regardless of position. Useful as a counterbalance. Also there's CF in the FFB standard, which the game can send custom effects to the device by constantly changing the CF value. The master CF slider in settings adjusts such effects "volume"
Periodic effects (PE) are also in the FFB standard, these are predefined effects in the device, such as sine, square waves. The game can request the device to make vibrations with certain amplitude and frequency. The PE slider adjusts the "volume" of such effects.
Constant force option in effects tab is an adjustable ... constant force (CF). It adds a certain amount of torque regardless of position. Useful as a counterbalance. Also there's CF in the FFB standard, which the game can send custom effects to the device by constantly changing the CF value. The master CF slider in settings adjusts such effects "volume"
Periodic effects (PE) are also in the FFB standard, these are predefined effects in the device, such as sine, square waves. The game can request the device to make vibrations with certain amplitude and frequency. The PE slider adjusts the "volume" of such effects.
WI think it should be possible to configure the axes that way, just no detents functionality is implemented yet.
WOk thanks for clarifying. Probably best to actually have something on the bench to experience the different settings. Is there any “break out force” option planned? Or force curves?
WForce curves are in already, breakout force is currently in my head, need to put it in code lol
Mhello can someone tell me what the price will be. thx
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faqMnot bad price thx
WHey misoswan. Nice to see you here! How’s your rig going?
MHi mate all works well 
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thxWAwesome to hear! Whole new journey here. 
SHi, I am interested in getting this but I would like to see it in action
Scan someone that has it make a short video of it during stall maneuvers etc.
SReally interesting product. I'm bashing my brains with the AH-64's current trim model and standard Virpil based. And this is looking simply fantastic. The reduced work load on the pilot should be a game changer. Anyone here is flying the Apache with this beauty?
WAnyone have a supplier for 12.7mm bore pulleys?
FI can try tomorrow unless someone else does. TF51 okay?
WI bought 20T 15mm 12,7 mm bore from Amazon.se
WMaterial:Alloy Number of Teeth:20 Model Number:5M-20T Picth:5mm Outside Diameter:30.69mm Screw Hole:2*M4 Flange:Double Flange
SOk!
WThanks. Does it really matter the pulley is 15mm wide. Can you still run a 10mm belt, or just go to 15mm?
SFYI, 12.7mm is 0.5 inches. It's those freedom units haha
WWhat's that in buttons then?
P@walmis Virpil just released their Constellation Alpha Prime grip and their new CM3 base
CI used my Rhino DIY with the Apache. It's really great (even if the last beta introduce some issues with SAS)
RI use 15mm belts but I'm sure 10mm is fine.. @walmis can confirm.
WThere's plenty on AliExpess too
W10mm belt on 15mm is fine (that's what I use on Rhino)
WNice! But still no FFB
WAdded support for multiple Rhino USB device instances in the upcoming version. Here's an FFB rudder instance for example.
Windows has a shortcoming when multiple game controllers with the same VID/PID cannot have different names in the device list. So I had to implement ability to change the USB productID.
Windows has a shortcoming when multiple game controllers with the same VID/PID cannot have different names in the device list. So I had to implement ability to change the USB productID.
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DAre you going to make FFB rudders?
WNot yet, this is more for FFB kit applications currently
SThanks for this. I'm glad to hear. Do you keep it in "dead stick" mode when you fly the Apache, or do you also use it in a "return to center" as well? (btw - there's a SAS saturation beep "reduction" workaround. Makes the bug a bit more tolerable - https://forum.dcs.world/topic/307600-sas-saturation/#comment-5036929)
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I fly rather okay, but since about a week I have annoying sound of SAS SATURATION message too often to stand the game. It appears very often except perhaps straight flying. Even small adjustment of throttle causes it. Tried to turn off various channels in A/C utils page, but to no avail. I see a ...
VI made a quick sound mod to silence it, just sets the gain to 0. Doesn't seem to cause any of the issues listed
CI know for the workaround, because it was me who found and posted it 
Of course I use the "FFB trim" mode. That is when I set the trim the stick remains in its current position and efforts are centered for this new position (to be totally honest, it's a little bit in front of the position of the stick when you press the button). The more you move it from the new trimmed position, the more effort you will feel.
If you release the stick, it will go back to the trimmed position. If you reset trim and release the stick, it will go back to default center position.
Of course I use the "FFB trim" mode. That is when I set the trim the stick remains in its current position and efforts are centered for this new position (to be totally honest, it's a little bit in front of the position of the stick when you press the button). The more you move it from the new trimmed position, the more effort you will feel.
If you release the stick, it will go back to the trimmed position. If you reset trim and release the stick, it will go back to default center position.
SThe small world of DCS helli flyers Thanks for this clarification. I suppose that this is exactly how the real Apache (and other Hellis) work.
Thanks for this clarification. I suppose that this is exactly how the real Apache (and other Hellis) work.
Vthat's pretty much how all IRL helictopers work. exceptions being maybe "trim resets" and things that also have a nudging trim feature
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CVKB is showing interest in FFB, I see
CRegardless if it's business-related or not, welcome
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