CHoly jesus why was I always thinking he is czech 
WYep yep 
Cbrain fart moment 
YThe gimbal on the rhino is 3d printed, correct?
Are there any concerns of someone (not I I swear) getting to enthusiastic?
Are there any concerns of someone (not I I swear) getting to enthusiastic?
Dram jam and mashing the stick? i hope not 
YI don't normally fly that way but mistakes happen
Dyeah don't worry, it just reminds me to a kid at this one aviation museum mashing the pedals and stick as if he was making wine or something
Dpoor demonstrator :(
CHello, I tested il Il2 the new "HW trim" mapped to a potentiometer : it worked great. Many thanks !
HThis question might have been asked before, but if so I couldn't find it. How useful would a ffb stick be for a fly-by-wire plane, e.g F/A-8 of F-16?
DAFAIK, however - im not sure how far this is implemented in DCS
but most Aircraft, FBW included - would have a system in place that would artificially restrain the controls using springs or some kind of computer, so the pilot isn't just yanking a dead piece of metal around while the plane flies all over the place... (except for F-16's ofcourse, that's force sensing!)
if it's enabled in DCS, you could try it in the harrier and manually disable the artificial feel system (i believe i saw a switch for that atleast)
but most Aircraft, FBW included - would have a system in place that would artificially restrain the controls using springs or some kind of computer, so the pilot isn't just yanking a dead piece of metal around while the plane flies all over the place... (except for F-16's ofcourse, that's force sensing!)
if it's enabled in DCS, you could try it in the harrier and manually disable the artificial feel system (i believe i saw a switch for that atleast)
Dbut again, no idea if it's at all implemented
CEven if there would be no good FFB in a module I suppose you can turn the base into a normal spring stick (that's just my rough guess, not really sure how does all of that work, really 
)
)Dor use the new trim function to - well... trim things!
P@walmis do you plan on shipping some more Rhinos this week?
S^ this
Idk for sure but I think DCS itself handles spring and damper if there's no special FFB implementation in the module. I should try the Harrier again...
For other software (like MSFS because it doesn't support FFB (yet
) and in my opinion XPForce is really not good in MSFS) you can set the stock parameters in the Rhino Software like spring, damper, friction, ...
Idk for sure but I think DCS itself handles spring and damper if there's no special FFB implementation in the module. I should try the Harrier again...
For other software (like MSFS because it doesn't support FFB (yet
) and in my opinion XPForce is really not good in MSFS) you can set the stock parameters in the Rhino Software like spring, damper, friction, ...Cthat itself already sounds so much better than having a regular spring base...dampers 
AIdeally (I don't own the Rhino so can't tell from experience) you can use an FFB stick just like a regular stick with incredible amount of adjustability
AOr you can use it to replicate the specific feel of any given stick, for example different amount of travel or resistance on elevator / aileron, different kinds of centering feels etc.
AIt's of course entirely up to the stick and its software just how well that's going to work and like I said I don't have the Rhino so I just don't know
SThe customisation options for the Rhino are already very good so your assumptions are correct 
Pthe closer I get to being able to start building my simpit, the more desperately I want my turn in the preorder to come
AHarrier at the moment doesn't support the stick "center" moving under trim, we've raised this on the ED forum and no word from the developer about fixing it. Many other modules, such as the F-5E and F-14, do support this, however.
VDoes the rhino software always run in the background? Is it hooked into export lua? If so, the rhino software could detect that you're flying a module that does not support changing stick center based on trim, and when you push the trim hat it could trim the stick at the hardware level?
FIt doesn't need to run in the background. You set it up and once you've got it the way you want it doesn't need to run. Nothing to do with the exports either afaik
FHardware trim is planned out might even already be out, I haven't installed the latest update yet
VYeah that would work fine, I guess I was referring to it from the perspective of being in VR and flying the F14, then switching to a different jet that did not support the center moving under trim without having to get back into the software and turn off that hardware trim, potentially restarting the sim? I assume having hardware trim turned on and then jumping into a jet that supports centering trim would conflict in some manner?
MDCS dictates the effect, so I can Fly in VR with F18 and the stick does not move on trim, then jump right into the F5 which does.
Pmore specifically, the individual airframe module has to have that implemented
PDCS provides the framework/API for the module designers
Pthe module designers have to take advantage of it
Pit's a real shame that module designers aren't required by ED to implement FFB effects
Pyou'd think they would benefit from helping ensure a more consistent experience across the modules they sell
Mam guessing FFB is 0.001% of users
PI dunno, I think it might be much higher, something around 10% of users even
Pkeep in mind flight sims are a niche hobby still, compared to the rest of gaming
Pand people get very passionate about it
AFrankly I'm surprised at just how much ffb support there is considering how little high-end ffb sticks there have been around
Athat just might be changing now, though
PI definitely want to see the Rhino become widely used
Pit deserves to become the new FFB benchmark
AI think there are a lot of people who have wanted to combine the best possible grips (I love the mcgu) with FFB who haven't been happy with either the pricing and/or features of the existing solutions
Aif Rhino can hit that market things might go wild indeed
Pyep, Brunner is going to regret keeping their offerings at the "luxury item" pricing range
Pthe best way to make more money is to get more people buying your product
AMaybe there should be a patreon or kickstarter so that people can donate money for a Rhino to be sent to Eagle
AI wouldn't mind getting bumped up on the list so that ED can get one asap
PED doesn't need one, as DCS already fully supports FFB
Pit's the module designers that need to want to implement FFB for their airframes
Pwhat might get ED's attention is a nice chart showing the percentage of FFB users over time
