wouldn't you be able to just ignore the trim button and leave it unbound?
wouldn't you be able to just ignore the trim button and leave it unbound?
Sif the joystick is springless then means you don't even need trim at all and the center trim option works just fine without it.
Sunless your using spring pedals also with center trim
JThat works fine on something like the Huey, but the Apache's autopilot/stability augmentation system will be fighting you all the time. Sometimes you need to tell the autopilot "hey, this is the attitude and heading I want to be holding", and the only way to do that is with the trim button. The trim button is also the only way to reset the autopilot channels when they get saturated.
Syou dont have to use the trim up
Sjust trim left right and down
Strim up you can use for something else or leave it unbound. trim down resets the auto pilot, trim right engages alt hold and trim left engages att hold
TYou still need to trim for scas sleeve centering else you run out of authority quick
TSpecific for the Apache I should say
TIf you don’t the system will fight you, keeping the trimmer pressed doesn’t work either since that just puts it into rate damping not full scas authority within its band
TCan just bump trim it to keep the sleeve around your stick position
Ssorry I dont follow
TLook at the controls indicator box when flying the Apache
Syeah?
TThe lighter areas and the green cross
Syes
TThe green cross is your scas, the light area the authority it has
Sthe green cross is your center position yes?
Sfor trim
TNo
TIt’s what the scas channel is doing
Salright
TBasically if you move your stick out of that box the scas can’t do it’s job
TWhat trimming does is place the light square around your sticks position giving scas its control authority
Shmm, so your sayng that you are forced to trim if you want the helicopter to help you fly
TNo, it’s required to correctly fly the Apache, it’s built around the scas
Swhen your stick position moves outside the white square you need to bring the white square back in the area of your stick position by trimming
TThe scas is what keeps it stable, on the real bird, dcs the fm is kinda wonky atm
Swell thats annoyng
TIn general it’s always good to hit the trimmer when doing cyclic inputs
TEvery helo with a sas works that way
TForce trim is really no different
SI wander if he can use vjoy to make the game think his using ffb stick and then fly in the center mode with trim
TIn the real helo pressing the trimmer is what let’s you move the stick to begin with
Sbecause my ffb stick acts exactly as its supposed to even though it should act like a spring stick, so I think the game knows and lets me trim where I want to
TIn the Apache if the stick is outside the sleeve the scas will go to limits and saturate
Si see
Swell I never paid attention to that
TYour holds won’t engage either
TIt won’t handle as it should basically
SI just trim when I notice my hands getting tired pushin on the stick so much
Sand then when I want to hover
SI trim and leave it there
TYeah you’re flying with an unaided technique in a kinda fbw aircraft
Swas this scas system in the apache when it came out?
TYou have to rethink, it’s not you doing things it’s you telling the aircraft what to do, garbage in garbage out
TYes
Sthis is the first time hearing about it
Swhat stick do you use?
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